Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?


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Fair enough I appreciate talking to people who make well reasoned arguments and while I disagree with you I can see where you are coming from. In much the same way as while I disagree with almost everything aftcw says about the EU/British politics but he makes well reasoned arguments and you can have a good sensible discussion/debate with him.

Agreed, mate. You're not bad blokes, for Gooners!....<whistle>
 
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Rather like the EU, the remain voters don't believe in democracy. Oh no, they are much happier slagging off the elderly for their right to vote for the leave campaign. They won't accept the result and are campaigning for another referendum.

They also claim to be the intelligent voters <laugh>

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Isn't campaigning for a second referendum exercising their democratic right or have I missed something here?
 
What a surprise, we disagree again. He lead many of those campaigns and was hugely influential in their success (at least from a British politics point of view). He did much more than just 'stand in front of crowds and shout'. Maybe it's just you don't know much about him....

But I'm happy, as I said before, to disagree with someone who thinks Gove is a man of the people who did a good job in Education. No point arguing about it.
When did I say that?
 
Isn't campaigning for a second referendum exercising their democratic right or have I missed something here?
Nice one, good answer. You could put that to anything undemocratic and make it democratic.

By not accepting the result, it is still undemocratic. No matter what spin you try to put on it.
 
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So if they have a second referendum should there be a third referendum? When do you stop having referendums on the same subject?

I'm just pointing out that that is a persons democratic right - if they don't like something they can campaign to change the decision. That is what democracy is and what we have fought for.
 
Nice one, good answer. You could put that to anything undemocratic and make it democratic.

By not accepting the result, it is still undemocratic. No matter what spin you try to put on it.

???? That makes no sense - how is it undemocratic? You are going to have to walk me through this warped logic I'm afraid. As I fail to how someone exercising their democratic rights is 'undemocratic' just because you don't like it.
 
Well apologies I may have misquoted you - you said 'has a great understanding of the people' rather than he 'is a man of the people'
Apology accepted. You are getting closer: I said "has a great understand of people" and not "has a great understanding of the people" - obviously you realised the "understand" was a typo for "understanding"!
 
But is it democratic to not accept a democratic vote?

Of course as that is your democratic right - otherwise we'd all have been forced to become Tories at the last election just because 25% of the electorate voted for them. It is our democratic right to fight for what we believe in and to campaign for what we believe in. That is the basis of democracy - no one can tell you what you can and can't do as long as it doesn't impinge on others democratic rights (ie hate crimes)
 
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