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Cicero couldn't have known about the poorer areas receiving the most support from the EU though I suppose:
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Cicero couldn't have known about the poorer areas receiving the most support from the EU though I suppose:
Not to mention that Wales, Cornwall and Yorkshire are now trying to seek reassurances that the £1.8bn, £2.5 bn and £600m they were guaranteed respectively by the EU regional development funds and other EU project funds will be guaranteed by the UK government.
Oh so now the EU led us out of a world war. I thought world war 2 ended in 1945. The European Economic Community (EEC), or ‘Common Market’ was created in 1957 as a result of the Treaty of Rome. We along with Ireland & Denmark joined the EEC, or ‘Common Market’ in 1973. The EU as we currently know it started in 1993 with the signing of the ‘Maastricht’ Treaty (the 'four freedoms' of: movement of goods, services, people and money) and the EU subsequently starts to act together in relation to security & defence matters. Hardly dynamic leadership. The Americans led Western Europe out of world war 2 and Russia led Eastern Europe and I would suggest that NATO, the United Nations and nuclear weapons did much more to preserve peace in Europe than the EU did, particularly in the time between the end of the war and the falling of the Berlin wall in 1989 and its immediate aftermarth. Indeed you could argue that the EU only became interested in Europe's security when America became unwilling to continue its huge contribution in terms of troops and resources. Whilst the self serving political elite may have unified across Europe, they certainly haven't taken the people with them. At present if anything the EU as it currently is, is doing more to divide Europe than anything else. If we stuck with the initial idea of a common market the current situation, I think, would have been very different
This from a document I received from Leave/EU. Do you know that for every £ areas receive from the EU, we have to match that amount so in effect we are receiving our own money back from the EU and then have to match that amount ourselves. That is a synopsis from just the second paragraph.
Regarding Lincolnshire and Yorkshire, I think the answer is obvious, they were unhappy with the intrusion into their lives and took steps to rectify that situation. It is called democracy to those of limited intelligence.
Regarding Lincolnshire and Yorkshire, I think the answer is obvious, they were unhappy with the intrusion into their lives and took steps to rectify that situation. It is called democracy to those of limited intelligence.
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Good question JKC. But first you answer this question. What has Cicero got to do with the Referendum. KIO was just making a comparison to when the Roman Empire ruled Europe and now. Briefly nothing has changed, so why make reference to someone who has been dead for centuries to make a useless point.
Now I will be more accurate and change the word intrusion to dictate, that is a more appropriate and correct word. We in this country have been dictated by
the EU. We have had to give up our Imperial Preference, our Imperial Measurement System, and the electorate were not given the opportunity until now to
say if they agreed to that or not, thanks to past politicians.
Our politicians have not understood the mood of the country and that is the reason a Party like UKIP can rise from nothing and become a force in politics.
What politicians fail to understand is that they are servants of the public and if they do not accede to the public's wishes then like the boss who has an employee who doesn't do his job, they are sacked.
Now I will be more accurate and change the word intrusion to dictate, that is a more appropriate and correct word. We in this country have been dictated by
the EU. We have had to give up our Imperial Preference, our Imperial Measurement System, and the electorate were not given the opportunity until now to
say if they agreed to that or not, thanks to past politicians.
Our politicians have not understood the mood of the country and that is the reason a Party like UKIP can rise from nothing and become a force in politics.
What politicians fail to understand is that they are servants of the public and if they do not accede to the public's wishes then like the boss who has an employee who doesn't do his job, they are sacked.
Well of course they are and it will be the responsibility of which ever government that is power at the time that the EU funding comes to an end to decided whether they get it or not.
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Not our imperial preference! Oh no!
I can't tell if you really believe that that is a good reason to leave the EU.
You cannot tell if I believe that a good reason !!! Since when did you know what exactly were the thoughts I was thinking ? Then understand this, if possible : The figure 12 can be divided by 2, 3, 4 and 5. Now you tell me how you can arrived at an accurate figure dividing 10 by 3 ?
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Good grief. Grief, somebody dead ? No such thing as "good" grief, a contradiction of terms, suggest you stick to Deutschland uber Alles.
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You'll need to get used to American idioms like that if we're going to be cosying up to Trump's US.
Do not be a politician and evade the question. Divide 10 by 3 and come up with an accurate answer. I answered your question on intrusion. What has the American election got to do with this conversation ? That is a politician trick changing the subject.
As far as imperial and metric go I'm happy to leave things pretty much as they are. Although in relation to weights in particular I'd be more than happy to let market forces decide which prevails.
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Why are you so desperate for me to answer 10/3? Why is that such an issue to you? This isn't the 19th Century Weights and Measures act that we're discussing here!
You've turned this discussion into something very strange, even by your standards RBF.
Cario bor, it would cost money to revert back, just making the comparison between the differences between the two systems. Youngsters have become used to the metric and would be stupid to confuse them. Just pointing out that if fact our ancestors knew how to make better decisions than that Frenchman who devised the metric system.
I agree for most things I prefer metric although I still prefer to walk half a mile to my local pub for a pint. I'm equally happy to measure things in meters, CM's & mm's. I wasn't suggesting that metric was done away or that it shouldn't be used for business or taught in schools, but equally I'm happy for my local grocer to sell things by the lb without fear of being prosecuted. Not that I think anybody had this in mind when they voted.
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Alright, you've done it. You've managed to make me reply to your ridiculous topic of 'leaving the EU because a Frenchman came up with the metric system'. I hate myself for taking this thread off-topic like this, but:
Metric units simply outperform non-metric in terms of reduced ambiguity and ease of use. Anyone capable of shifting decimal points can work with metric units. Working with non-metric systems is a much more elaborate undertaking. Anyone can see that. Why you're insisting Imperial measurements are better 'coz thems the British wuns and yoo can divide by 3' is beyond me.
The entire world very nearly unanimously opted for base ten rather than base six (or twelve), and thus the ease of division by three is essentially irrelevant.
Metric fully recognizes dependencies between units and contains the key notion of base units from which other units are derived.
For instance, volume is length cubed. Therefore, volume does not need a new unit (gallon) if one already has decided on a unit for length (foot). In metric, units length is measured in meters, and volume therefore in meters cubed. Given the meter (foot) as unit for measuring length, there is no other rational choice for measuring volume than cubic meters (cubic foot).
Sorry everyone. I had to get that out of my system.
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