Off Topic BREXIT

The relevance to my post of that repost was zero. It therefore doesn't warrant a reasoned response.

 

I mentioned this weeks ago, R4 Today had the story then.

 

Wave the flag mate, it'll all be sound eh.

Right oh, I get it, how silly of me to even think there might be a massive price to pay economically for this decision.

The pound hitting a 30 year low against the dollar on day 1 was nothing more than a figment of my imagination.

Cool, I'm glad I popped by.

 

first he wanted to play for Liverpool, then is was Chelsea .... I know what you mean

 

They are not. The choice is between the leaders of the various political parties at the time. Only Labour and Conservative leaders have a realistic chance of becoming PM. But to pretend they are the best two people to lead the country is naive.

 

When the new Conservative leader is elected they will invoke article 50. They will do it this year. I don't believe they can wait for elections in other countries.

 

So you're seriously trying to suggest that at a GE the populous don't have as a prime factor in there decision making the leadership qualities of the prospective PM?

 

Interesting to see that Torres is in Sir Ben's predictive text !!!

 

And I thought it was you who didn't know what it was.

There are currently 24 U.S. states with constitutionally-defined, citizen-initiated direct democracy governance components practising seven distinct forms of direct democracy within their legislature.

But they are merely attempts to ameliorate the excesses of representative democracy that dominates the country and the individual states. A sort of half way house which does not remove the overriding dictatorship of the state. Not really interested myself but a statist like you might be. If you ever take those blinkers of..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_direct_democracy_in_the_United_States

Beyond that there are numerous variations on the theme. Ancient Athens, Switzerland, the Zapatistas for eg.

As I said earlier, do your own research.

I am not here to supplement your stunted education.

 

Governments are elected on their manifestos. Brexit wasn't in their manifesto, a referendum on brexit was. Although you could possibly argue that doesn't matter since the people were asked and have chosen leave. Whatever, it's a real mess.

 

I wish people could look into the reality rather than the headline.

http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2016/0...s-in-2013-14-and-well-above-old-all-time-low/
"All post vote attention has been focused on the fall in the pound against the dollar rather than the surge in UK government bond prices or the good performance of the FTSE 100 since February. It is true that the pound hit a ten year low against the dollar of $1.36 on Friday, compared to $1.38 in January 2009 (when we were firmly in the EU). Over the years we have been in the EU the pound has been up and down against the dollar in a very wide range of $1 to $2. Much of the recent slide of the pound against the dollar has been part of a general strengthening of the dollar and a weakening of the Euro, yen and pound as well. The more immediate moves can be put down to market responses to the vote.

The pound against the Euro gives us a different picture, and arguably a more relevant one on Brexit. The big plunge in the pound occurred during the banking crash. The pound fell from a high of Euro 1.51 in January 2007, to just Euro 1.03 in December 2008, a fall of one third. From Euro 1.14 in July 2013 the pound rose to Euro 1.43 in July 2015, before gently declining as the Euro started to strengthen more broadly. On 23 June before the referendum result the pound stood at Euro 1.31. Yesterday it closed at Euro 1.23, still almost 20% above its previous low.

A modestly lower pound will be welcomed by many exporters. I will keep people posted next week to see how it settles down."
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/68...ve-campaigner-goes-viral-Brexit-Facebook-post
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Ms Evans wrote on her Facebook page: "A Prime Minister resigned. The pound plummeted. The FTSE 100 lost significant ground.

"But then the pound rallied past February levels. And the FTSE closed on a weekly high: 2.4 per cent up on last Friday, it's best performance in four months."

 

Can't be bothered to read all that but loving the sources...John Redwoods diary and the Daily Express. And remainers get criticised for quoting independent economists!

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Hilary-Benn-Shadow-Cabinet-reports-coup.html

Labour's in a right mess

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy
So, one form of "direct democracy" is hold referendums. Unfortunately when the vote doesn't go your way you object to it.
You still haven't been able to come up with how the Leave/Remain issue could have been decided to your satisfaction using "direct democracy".
NB Notice how I don't get upset by your attempted insults. It is common for people who are struggling to explain something to resort to insults.

 

Governments change all the time - what about "reshuffles"?
A PM might change and they don't have to call a general election.

 

I'm not asking you to judge based on the source. I much prefer people who are willing to read an analysis and arrive at their own conclusions. You don't seem to be one of those people.

 

No, they don't " have" to do anything. We don't even have a constitution. However given the momentous events, the chaos in the leasership of both main parties and the fact MPs are now out of step with the apparent wishes of the public I think we'll see a general election within six months.

 

When I went out I just got on with things. Nowadays I see youngsters going out and ignoring each other while staring at their phone. I know which I prefer.

 

I have no objection to the result in fact I welcome it. See my sig.

Glad you aren't upset by my insults. I need have no guilty conscience then when I say stick your enormous IQ up your arse..

 

Well I don't read the Express out of principal. I believe they incite hatred with their anti immigration stance. Plus they are financial backers of UKIP. Certainly not clicking on that link, I might catch something. Sure it was interesting though.