Personal relations did surely come into it. Dave could not face going into EU negotiations with his old school rival giving him orders behind the scenes
It sounds logical because they need financial clarity. As soon as the article is invoked then there are 2 years left of agricultural subventions, research grants and payments to assisted areas of the UK. so they are going to need clarity in order to plan ahead.
You're very gracious but the credit for the initial question is not mine. It was Stan who asked it. I merely answered it by referring to the one and only Nigel Farage who had conceded, 'unconceded' much to the amusement of the BBC coverage (I didn't know there was such a word and can't be bothered to check. I'm lazy and find it convenient to simply assume that he made it up, a skill in which he is a master when it comes to facts). The most notable bit being that when he thought he'd lost he could not waste anytime at all in seeking to shift the blame for that defeat on the temerity of the Government to extend the time for registration so that 2 million voters could actually participate and exercise their democratic right.
Surely he's doing that anyway Stan. If he hadn't resigned they'd had been additional speculation of when he was going, plus the next leadership plotting anyway.
It's just doing my head in that we have to wait until October for the next step to be taken because of internal Tory party issues. I suspect Goldie may be right and the EU will lose patience and change the rules to get things moving quicker. I'm rambling, ignore me.
Let's exit on the French working time as it would take 150 years including 150 years worth of strikes and 2 hour lunch breaks. I will tell you how long it took me to get a french bank account one day. Seriously it takes forever
Well, internal Tory party issues were the only reason for the referendum in the first place so there's a certain symmetry... The EU won't want to hang around as the uncertainty hurts their economies too, which might help us, but we don't want th to say sign this deal or **** off either.
The problem is if the Tories fartarse about until October to elect a new leader who then wishes to call an election, they may end up giving UKIP a golden chance to cash in on the Tories seemingly deliberately dragging their heels and Labour being in such a mess. The 52% may feel they have been misled and head towards voting for UKIP in a General Election which would really be a nightmare scenario...
I don't think that is correct. They will wait but agree we are trying to stall things as it helps us.
Sorry Yorkshire my eyesight is bad (seriously) and i sometimes cant really see what i type. I need glasses.
I work with the general public and you'd be surprised how scary it is that so I have an umbilical hernia, I used to have an inny now it's half outy how would I have voted?
The problem is, Article 50 has never been exercised before, so no one can be quite sure. Ultimately, speed of Article 50 notice may be a bargaining counter for the UK. I do believe the Brexiteers want informal talks with the EU now to try and get agreement on certain fundamentals eg getting access to the single market for something less than unqualified free movement of people. Once we give notice of Art 50, the reducing 2 year time period could be used by the EU to bring pressure on us unless we have this informal agreement
Merkel seems our biggest friend at the moment, despite what her foreign minister said about getting on with it, she said there is no need for it to be nasty and the U.K. needs time to get itself organised. Though I've just read that some senior law professor (yeah an expert) reckons that if Cameron opens his mouth to confirm that the referendum means the UK will be leaving when he meets the other EU leaders next in the Council of MinistersTuesday that could be considered as formal notification. Apparently he's not allowed to join their discussions on the next day, when they will talk about him behind his back.
David Lammy has become the first MP (as far as I am aware) to suggest that parliament should reject the referendum result. What a mess.
Never been more proud to be British. Nothing to do with the result but the fact that a truly democratic process was able to occur. People from all parties could vote how they saw fit - not sure this could or would happen anywhere else in the world. Yes of course there will be fallout from the result - but I sense it's just another Millennium Bug type panic - remember when the world was supposed to fall apart 16 years ago. It didn't then and it won't now....... at least not as a result of our referendum.
Yes, let's all let Lammy lead us into anarchy. He might get away with that in some unreconstructed ex Soviet block country or a Central African state but not in a Parliamentary democracy where trust between governors and governed is sacred, even if not perfect
