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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Hoops Eternal

    Hoops Eternal Well-Known Member

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    Auto correct has stitched me up there
     
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  2. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    His mind is thoroughly mixed and completely set
     
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  3. durbar2003

    durbar2003 Well-Known Member

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    French politicians are demanding that Britain takes back its border after voting to leave the European Union.

    The Mayor of Calais Natacha Bouchart said an immigration deal which allows Britain to check passports in France, preventing migrants from crossing the Channel, should be renegotiated.
     
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  4. TootingExcess

    TootingExcess Well-Known Member

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    Was hoping some of the leavers in our poll would have changed their minds by now...
     
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  5. durbar2003

    durbar2003 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, we should have another referendum amongst the leavers called "Are You Sure?"
     
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  6. durbar2003

    durbar2003 Well-Known Member

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    And we should find out which way the MPs voted so would fire all those who voted to stay for getting it wrong!
     
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  7. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    Even your old farts who were in their twenties were working hard to rebuild the country after the war.
    They knew tough times and today's youngsters are spoilt and pampered in comparison.
    They need to stop whining and realise how lucky they are.
     
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    Yeah that's right. The old farts can't think for themselves eh?
     
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  9. TootingExcess

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  10. durbar2003

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    Yes Minister

     
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  12. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    The baby boomers (of which I am one, and I suspect you qualify too) were spoilt and pampered, Col. Today's youngsters are having a much tougher time than we did and it's likely to get worse for them after this vote.
     
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  13. ELLERS

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    Don't believe what some drunken old French Mayor says. It won't happen just talking crap.
     
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  14. durbar2003

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    I forget but do Passports get checked leaving the UK for Europe?
     
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  15. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    You know what? To have supported Remain or to have supported Leave were both legitimate positions to take. Whether you based your voting decision around how the outcome would effect you and yours personally, or whether you based your voting decision on how the outcome would impact on the greater good were also both legitimate positions to take.

    I respect everybody that voted, regardless of how they cast their vote and their motives. What I have no respect for is the bitterness of the sore losers and the assumptions they are making about those that voted Leave.

    Having been a staunch supporter of getting out of the EU for the past 25-30 years, I was genuinely unsure of how I would ultimately vote until I was actually in the booth. I suspect it was the same for many of us. The battle inside of my head was won by as similarly a close margin as in the referendum itself. It is disappointing that some in the Remain camp are stereotyping Leave voters as unpleasant, selfish individuals.

    On the turnout at this referendum: If c. 30% chose not to exercise their right to vote in something this important, is it not reasonable to assume their apathy meant that they were indifferent to the UK leaving the EU? If true, then you could well argue that only 34%* of those eligible to vote felt sufficiently strongly about remaining in the EU.
     
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  16. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    So what if the younger voters are moaning? It's called democracy get over it! I was young once and i never wanted that muppet Blair in but the majority of older people did. If they want to remain in Europe go and move to France or Germany.

    The vote is over and we have decided to Brexit and we need to get on with it. Some tough times ahead but if Europe wants to play hardball, then so do we.

    At the end of the day it's all about money and the won't shoot themselves in the foot just to stitch us up. French and Italian markets lost a lot today because of us (our economy). They are sh2tting themselves about us leaving and worried it will break up the union (which i think will happen).

    They all said it would be end of the World and it isn't. Markets are growing again, Obama (remember him 'back of the queue')? Today spoke about nothing changing. Mayor of London (last week it will be doom and gloom) Today let's get on with it. Premier league (last week 'players') today nothing will change other than more English players.
    Companies all leaving last week (remember in the papers) today nothing will happen. There will be some things happening but not on the scale they were predicting.

    We were not fooled project fear.
     
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    Equally reasonable to assume then that their "apathy" meant only 36% felt sufficiently strong about leaving the EU. The grapes I'm both eating and drinking are sweet not sour, and imo making such a huge change to the existing arrangement as this, should require something more like 2/3 of the electorate (which should include any UK citizen) not 1/3.
     
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  18. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    And how would you force the 13 million people who didn't vote to vote
     
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  19. YorkshireHoopster

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    "Would the Brexiters have meekly rolled over and say 'mustn't grumble' had Remain won by a similar margin (or any margin at all?)................."

    I think we all know the answer to that. Farage complained about the extra 2 million voters allowed to register late for losing narrowly before the first results were even announced and was roundly condemned to his everlasting credit by Douglas Carswell.
     
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  20. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Twenty-four hours later and the world is still turning - what was all the fuss about, eh Ellers?

    It may take a little longer to pan out mate.
     
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