Yep, Milliband made it an easy Conservative win in the last election and Corbyn hasn't done enough to save it.
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Yep, Milliband made it an easy Conservative win in the last election and Corbyn hasn't done enough to save it.
CarlisleTigerII
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True but he never stood a chance anyway.
With the red tories in his own party against him from the start.
'A generation given everything: free education, golden pensions, social mobility, have voted to strip my generation’s future.'
Sums it up for me, one last **** you to the EU from the baby boomers with our generation once again left to pick up the consequences.
Sums it up for me, one last **** you to the EU from the baby boomers with our generation once again left to pick up the consequences.
Put benefit restrictions and housing restrictions in place for economic migrants and return any with no job to come to immediately. Or ship em to a remote Scottish island with a brief multiligual guide saying simply " enjoy your stay
Depends which generation you are.
If you're of an age where retirement is imminent, presumably you have a nest egg, and fortunes are being made as we speak. They often are in a volatile market.
Longer term, the EU's a basket case. Detaching ourselves from that relieves some of their burden from us.
Enjoy the fruits of the consequences.
Golden pensions? Only those in the public sector. Brown ****ed up final salary schemes for the private sector.
Those baby boomers are the ones who built up the welfare state and NHS and didn't get the be benefits so many of today's younger ones seem to regard as a right.
We weren't given any of those things. Our parents and grandparents fought for them. The EU didn't give us any of those things and did nothing to save free education, SERPs, stop the pension holidays in the 1980s or affect social mobility. Your generation will only have a future if you stand up and fight for it.
I'm not going to discuss it with you, we barely agree on football which is something we both have in common so god knows how pointless having a political debate would be when we both come from opposite sides of the spectrum.
The decisions made now and we have to move on and live with the consequences, time will tell how befits and to what extent.
We did stand up and fight for it we turned out in record numbers and voted overwhelming in favour of staying (75% remain, 25% leave), it was one of the highest voting turnouts for our demographic ever.
Oooooh... you can't say 'fight' to that generation..!!... its peace, humanity and love..
Ah thats right, I'm forgetting about the famous battle of the NHS in which thousands of brave souls lost their lives fighting for their cause.
Similarly all those heroes on the frontline that made the ultimate sacrifice to ensure others had the right to free university.
What a valiant and brave generation, you must be so proud.
You and your generation voted, a welcome first step but it is only a first step. If you want a future voting isn't enough. You need to decide what you want and organise to get it. You have to put up with the setbacks and carry on through the bad times as well as the good. That would be true whether we are in the EU or out of it. I've seen rights my parents and grandparents politically fought for taken away from young people over the past four decades and your generation have more or less accepted it.
How many demonstrations in Hull have been organised for decent and affordable housing for young people? Same for jobs? What about the right to get benefits if you're 16 and unemployed? Same for zero hour contracts and apprenticeships with a guaranteed job at the end of it. If you want a decent world you have to organise and campaign for it, not just vote. If you do that you may find people you can elect that will stand up for your future and mean it. Most of them, hopefully, will be a lot younger than me.
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I'm not going to discuss it with you as we don't agree. Last time I heard someone come out with something like that was on a school playground. Sorry if bringing a bit of reality into your life causes so much distress.
Quite a lot lost their lives so that there was a country free to set up an NHS and give others a free university education.
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