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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, May 27, 2016.

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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

Poll closed Jun 26, 2016.
  1. IN

    28 vote(s)
    43.8%
  2. OUT

    34 vote(s)
    53.1%
  3. DON'T KNOW

    4 vote(s)
    6.3%
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  1. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    I made up my mind, filled my postal ballot. Looking for a post box.
     
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  2. Tobes

    Tobes Warden
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    Postal voting ended 2 weeks ago mate <laugh>
     
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  3. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Mine must reach them by 10pm on Thursday 23/06/2016. Where do you register Tobes?:emoticon-0137-clapp
     
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  4. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    Me? Naaaa.
     
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    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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  6. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    On the issue of betting:

    In general (not just this referendum) , in a two way contest, if an outcome is genuinely 50-50 (as it appears in this case and no one knows for sure who will win), if you are given odds of 3 to 1 for one outcome and 1 to 4 for the other, what is stopping anyone on betting on the 3 to 1? Sure the bookies may have had huge bets on Remain and therefore they will put up odds to reflect that and maximise profits or minimise loss. But for the ordinary punter, is it not an opportunity to quadruple their money on a 50-50 situation?

    Am I missing something here?

    AND:

    Is it not like one of those Championship playoff finals where any of two equally matched sides on their day can win? and if one of the sides was given odds of 3 to 1 wouldn't you take it?
     
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  7. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    EU referendum poll latest tracker and odds
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  8. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    Exactly!

    Why is the Leave side being given odds of 3 to 1 ?



    BETTING BAROMETER
    REFERENDUM OUTCOME BASED ON LIVE ODDS

    % CHANCE LEAVE
    3/1
    24%/76%
    % CHANCE REMAIN
    1/4
     
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  9. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Opinion Polls are not usually deadly accurate. Always plus or minus 3 to 5 per cent.
     
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  10. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    Sure. Why is there a 76% chance of a Remain (according to Ladbrokes) when it could be anything from 50% +/- 3% ???
     
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  11. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Some of the polls are not independently carried out and are manipulated especially by Leave side.
     
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  12. saintanton

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    Doesn't matter where it comes from if it makes sense. So it's about reading it and seeing whether or not you agree, not dismissing it because of its source.
    The article goes a bit far towards the end, but it's perfectly correct, imo, that a vote to leave is a push to the right.
    As if we needed one.
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    guys it is too close to the date to have an accurate poll... usually 2 weeks out is the most accurate poll. I think if you look back at about the 10th or 11th... that would be most accurate
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    I think we should jus tlook at the trade thing again

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    my american associates are as anti trade agreements as europeans.
     
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  14. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Who said that?
     
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  15. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    AHHHHHHHHHHHH ..the Mail and the Sun, both of whom take your 'Stick one to the Establishment' line. Like buying a Cliff Richard record during the Punk era to worry your parents.
     
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  16. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    I read that this referemdum (like most referendums) will be decided by the 10% undecideds who will make their decision in the last 24 hours.
     
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  17. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Brian Curtice, who has a ****ing exemplary track record. was on Newsnight last night and says it's 55/45 towards Remain AT BEST. I stil think it'll be 55/45 Brexit.
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    he aligns with my thoughts two weeks ago now.
     
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  19. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    I hope you are wrong.

    I predict it will be 50.01% Remain. That will feel like a CL final winner 3rd minute of injury time !!!!!
     
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  20. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    TTIP is worrying, but get this straight IT DOESN'T mean privatisation of the NHS - no more than if the government of the day allows it. The railways is a better example - the train operating companies, when they come up for franchise renewal, would be open to US bids. The same with any parts of the NHS that are already run by private franchises. But the government of the day has total power over what is and isn't privatised.

    So remember that - if Boris, IDSS, Gove-adder or Farright are ever in power and have signed a TTIP agreement then bluster that they can't help but privatise the NHS then it's bullshit, and it has more to do with the fact that all of them have, at some stage, supported various measures of privatising the NHS whole or in part.
     
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