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Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?

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  1. Stan

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    Treble, house prices have already dipped in certain areas because of stamp duty and the prospect of Brexit. Granted they are the higher value properties and the higher value areas. The rest of the country may not dip after Brexit but it could and probably will stagnate. That would be good for people trying to get on the ladder but bad for people who are homeowners. A lot of older people rely on their properties as their retirement fund. If properties don't rise in value but the cost of living does then your property won't be worth as much to you as it once was.
     
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    I'm still thinking less work more money sounds fun.
     
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    At the end of the day, we will all vote what we think is right and we as a country will have to live with it.

    But I here that some MPs would not ratify the referendum IF we voted out, that woud not be good for them or us
     
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  4. Stan

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    Depends where you are in the country Gonz. Average house price in London is £600k which is just insane. If you're earning £40k a year and living in London you've got no chance of buying a property. If you're earning £20k a year and living in Colwyn Bay then you can get on the property ladder.
     
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    What about the NHS and lack of investment with all the extra people that live here, how can we cope if we dont control our borders?

    Yes more money would be good, but thats not going to happen to the extent we need it
     
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  6. Tobes

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    There should be an IQ test before they hand over the voting cards.
     
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    Yeh young people can buy homes, they just can't always do it in prime centre locations like the middle of London, Manchester or Birmingham. But then, if that's what you want you build up to that by getting yourself onto the housing ladder in the first place somewhere else and work your way up. Bloody hell, 30-40 years ago MOST people rented. Now all of a sudden the EU is the problem??? Makes no sense.

    There are many factors that affect first time buyers, but mostly it's based on wages and mortgage lending criteria. As long as wages keep going up (wow that minimum wage suddenly seems important!!), interest rates remain low, and lenders are willing to lend, people will buy.

    By the way, the housing market is built on First Time Buyers! Without them, house prices wouldn't be where they are. <ok>

    Leaving the EU will NOT change the supply and demand, the population is growing regardless along wth the economy and therefore prices will not drop. Unless there's a recession where confidence in the housing market suddenly drops. Now I wonder why anyone would want that?
     
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  8. Stan

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    Border control is essential if Britain stays in the EU. As I said before, we went into the open border system with no plan in place. That was a colossal **** up.
     
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    What an absolute crock of ****.
     
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    I hear you, but that's actually quite a dangerous stance to take. politics affects every area of your life and some politicians are very happy to have the big decision making left to them. 'Yes politics is very boring and complicated, best you leave it all to us.....'
     
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    Stan I would argue that these are mostly as a result of stamp duty particularly on the Buy to Let market? Also, are these abstract figures - those being reported rather than in real terms? Are they based on actual completions or just "reported" market conditions? I just feel the market isn't being propped up by people coming into the country, it's increasing as a result of the growing indigenous population and that supply and demad won't change. Especially as the Brexit people are claiming their kids can't get on the property ladder! Doesn't that simply reinforce the fact that the demand will be there and therefore the prices won't fall.
     
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    Lol obviously a typo and i dont expect everyone to start loving each other <laugh>

    But my point, which seems fairly self evident, is that we would be literally be distancing ourselves from other countries while other countries are coming closer together
     
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    It's not the boring complicated part I dislike it's the fact that you cannot trust what you read or what they say, the majority are basing their opinions on those two things and it's absolute lies and nonsense.
     
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    Except more than half the ****ing country would be disqualified!..,
     
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    come on did we all think Custard has had a brain transplant overnight?

    It's Custard Ffs. Anything he says, more often than not, the opposite path is the sensible one.
     
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    I agree it can be turgid wading through the spin and bullshit to get to the facts.
     
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