PJust; aka The Chuckle Brothers #mastertactician

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Tobes said:
Whereas you lot aren't I suppose.

8th is the new 5th lol

The task facing Koeman is similar to that facing Klopp. Martinez massively under performed with that squad last season and without touching it Koeman could improve on that without doubt.

If Lukaku goes it'll be for the same as you got for Suarez.....so be it.

The key for us is whether we can convince Monchi to join to orchestrate the squad overhaul.
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What we are is a different issue (we can both be bad)... Koeman has a similar task but a steeper improvement needed and with respect to him... he ain't Jurgen Klopp.

Monchi would be great for you... would need the right manager and structure in place though. And he would have to want to leave Spain, come to England, to Liverpool, then Everton. I guess everyone has a price.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
You think it's not possible without a technical director?

I tend to agree.

I think fsg need everyone above klopp sacked and a technical director in. We are in desperate need of football men at board level.
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It's the structure that Moshiri wants to adopt and his prime target is arguably the best in the business.

Koeman is used to working within that structure and it provides continuity.

Looking at his incredible record Monchi could arguably be a more important signing than Koeman long term
 
Tobes said:
It's the structure that Moshiri wants to adopt and his prime target is arguably the best in the business.

Koeman is used to working within that structure and it provides continuity.

Looking at his incredible record Monchi could arguably be a more important signing than Koeman long term
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Definitely, Koeman won't do anything significant anyway, just raise the profile of the club (currently criminally underrepresented given it was the 18th richest in the world before the takeover) for the next manager
 
Hope you've clearly told koeman what's coming and emery better have okd the appointment.

Nothing worse than the new owner deciding both and neither get along then... it has happened!

Anyway..... job 1 is retain most players.. not all though... job 2 is to fix the wings. Job 3 is to then use those wingers to work with full backs to help defense. That should allow for a defensive realignment.

Koeman will put two in front of the cbs. Who will they be.... Barry the slowest player in the league now or will he buy??
 
Master Yoda said:
Don't really mind who Everton appoint. They are a long way from challenging for top 4.

Their 'best squad in years' peaked with Moyes.

Koeman would likely improve them (not hard with the fraud's performance)... and if he does, he'll leave.

Lukaku... the jury is still out if he's a top player. And if someone is convinced... he'll leave too.

Maybe this new owner will provide proper funds - then it will get interesting. Probably only need a GK, LB, CB, two CMs, a winger and another striker to challenge for top 4.
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Like Leicester were last season ?
 
Justovertheline said:
You lot are the "Next year" experts....ah maybe not i wont ask how you think it will pan out lol
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Where do you stop though?

Vardy scored 5 goals in 34 league games in his first PL season. Are we really going to say "Oh, Kone only scored 5 in 25 last season but there's no reason he can't challenge for the golden boot because Vardy did it"?
 
Diego said:
Bit like Klopp then?
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Nah, Klopp raised the profile of the club and a squad of players he had not purchased, he also took them to two cup finals in his first 7 months at the club knocking out two very decent European teams and also a regional rival along the way.
 
Lucaaas said:
Where do you stop though?

Vardy scored 5 goals in 34 league games in his first PL season. Are we really going to say "Oh, Kone only scored 5 in 25 last season but there's no reason he can't challenge for the golden boot because Vardy did it"?
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Nobody would ever day that about Kone <laugh>
 
Page_Moss_Kopite said:
Nah, Klopp raised the profile of the club and a squad of players he had not purchased, he also took them to two cup finals in his first 7 months at the club knocking out two very decent European teams and also a regional rival along the way.
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And finished lower in the league than his predecessor.
 
le astrotednaut said:
Definitely, Koeman won't do anything significant anyway, just raise the profile of the club (currently criminally underrepresented given it was the 18th richest in the world before the takeover) for the next manager
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He did a fine job at Soton who were relegation candidates after Todgers bought half their 1st team. He got them to within 3 points of the CL within 2 years......

I think he'll prove to be a very canny appointment personally.
 
I agree he did a good solid job at southampton based on sound defense. We certinly thought they were imploding once poch left and they lost chambers play lambert, lallana and lovern.

He bought pelle and tadic in for half nothing and then loses Schneiderlin and then wanayma has a strop.... he steadied it up and got them playing.


The press are having a field day trying to figure out who everton are after. Long is the next candidate... his agent is such a whore <laugh>
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
The press are having a field day trying to figure out who everton are after. Long is the next candidate... his agent is such a whore <laugh>
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So far we've been linked to half of the Soton first team and assorted others.

Total guesswork based on nowt but the hacks view on where we need to strengthen
 
Sir Stan said:
And finished lower in the league than his predecessor.
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So a part season based on 30 games?



His predecessor was in charge for 8 games during the season which included 2 losses and 3 draws, 12 possible points to have been won if Klopp had been appointed last summer.
 
Page_Moss_Kopite said:
So a part season based on 30 games?

His predecessor was in charge for 8 games during the season which included 2 losses and 3 draws, 12 possible points to have been won if Klopp had been appointed last summer.
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When Rodgers was sacked you had 12 points from 8 games - 1.5 points per game

Klopp had 30 games and amassed a further 48 points - 1.6 per game

8 x 0.1 = less than a points difference.........................
 
So the general consensus is Liverpool's players are bottom half of the table quality and Klopp did well to drag them up to eighth?
 
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Tobes said:
When Rodgers was sacked you had 12 points from 8 games - 1.5 points per game

Klopp had 30 games and amassed a further 48 points - 1.6 per game

8 x 0.1 = less than a points difference.........................
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He dropped 12 points, he had no EL/FA cup and only 1 LC game to contend with, most importantly Klopp never had a full league season so comparing the percentages of the two in the coming season is the only way to make a fair reflection.
 
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