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originallambrettaman said:
I think the club are fairly confident they'll at least be able to trail away fans in the West Upper and that being the case, they can't sell memberships in there. If people are happy to take a punt, they'll probably be able to buy match day tickets in there for most games, though it's likely to be a costly way of doing things.

I've no idea how many in the West Upper will sack it off, but I'll be amazed if it's over 25%, it's the least militant part of the ground.

When this scheme was pitched to us, it involved the West Upper fans being invited in 100-150 at a time, to have everything explained and to try views from other parts of the ground, but this obviously didn't happen.

I believe there was actually a plan to do the same ahead of the East Stand moves, based on the way things were handled for similar moves at Sunderland, but the club management decided to just do it and let everyone find out after the event.

We don't do lesson learning, we're sticking with railroading.
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The version I heard about some club management view of consultation in the east was '**** 'em, they'll whinge for a bit and get on with it.' They were perhaps swayed by some less enlightened types being fully supportive of it.

I wasn't just meaning the club when I spoke of lessons being learned.

It shouldn't be costly for fans to have a choice. If they're planning to let it be pay on the day, even if it's only occasionally, it could be the previous occupants getting first refusal to transfer, which would free up their seats for pay on the day.

I reckon a call for ideas from fans, particularly those affected or with experience would bring up other options to put to the club .
 
Everything always seems to be done at the last minute and results in messing about when changes are required.
If they had announced this at the start of the season and had meetings with those involved then it could be all sorted out in time for the launch of whatever was decided and based on where away fans were. Instead everything is still up in the air.
 
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dennisboothstash said:
All the East evictions therefore were nothing more than 'seat migration' then? It felt much more significant to me. I guess you weren't migrated then?
It's only inevitable because no supporters groups are challenging it
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I wasn't talking about evictions that have taken place; get down off your cross, Dennis.

It's inevitable because it's happening now and reversals mean further evictions.

Are you in and active within a supporter group, Dennis? What have you done? (Seeing as you feel it clever to challenge)

I have migrated seats at the KC every time I have attended, as I have never had a season ticket; many will happily migrate within the stadium to save money.

Is being evicted one of your conditions to express an opinion.

As I said, unfortunately there will be victims of change, I don't see how a campaign will change that. Perhaps you can explain?
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
If that's the case, it's a shame something hasn't been organised for (now) previous pass holders, to have an option on an alternative seat, that could be sold match by match, while staying put in their old seat until a decision is reached on away fans.

It'd be a half measure, but it could sill be organised for people to transfer back up there on a game by game basis.
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This just gets dafter. This is a club that couldn't police concessions and you think they could (or should) cope with that rigamarole?
 
Fez said:
This just gets dafter. This is a club that couldn't police concessions and you think they could (or should) cope with that rigamarole?
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They've managed it up to now albeit on a smaller scale, and that's with the additional complication of concessions and paper tickets.
 
dennisboothstash said:
I know I should know this, but I'd never looked before

How do you actually buy a season pass?
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Perhaps you should ask one of those parents who have bought them for them and their bairns; you know, the ones you make snide remarks about.
 
Fez said:
In what way?
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People can change seats.

Edit. To possibly save this dragging on and disappearing up its own arse, it's one possible suggestion. I'm not suggesting it's THE complete difinitive answer.
 
Fez said:
How many do you think it will be?
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Less than Ticketmasturbators* managed in hours with a worse system. Swapping tickets isn't hard.

Seriously, don't start dragging this thread up its own arse. It's one possible suggestion for what could possibly have been done. **** all will be done because nobody is asking for it. That's the more important point.

*sometimes autocorrect is spookily accurate. ****ed if I'm changing that. <ok>
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
Less than Ticketmasturbators* managed in hours with a worse system. Swapping tickets isn't hard.

Seriously, don't start dragging this thread up its own arse. It's one possible suggestion for what could possibly have been done. **** all will be done because nobody is asking for it. That's the more important point.

*sometimes autocorrect is spookily accurate. ****ed if I'm changing that. <ok>
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It's a different scenario; you're talking about being allocated one seat and having another specific seat reserved for reallocation when circumstances allow. Would you include groups, what would be the cut-off for resale, would their new neighbours miss them?

Seriously, you're the one dragging threads up their own arse as you've had quite reasonable explanations, yet you keep repeating the same **** so you can make the same old criticisms. It's boring.

What do you think could have been achieved in the time Allam allowed? Who do you think should have done that achieving?
 
Fez said:
It's a different scenario; you're talking about being allocated one seat and having another specific seat reserved for reallocation when circumstances allow. Would you include groups, what would be the cut-off for resale, would their new neighbours miss them?

Seriously, you're the one dragging threads up their own arse as you've had quite reasonable explanations, yet you keep repeating the same **** so you can make the same old criticisms. It's boring.

What do you think could have been achieved in the time Allam allowed? Who do you think should have done that achieving?
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It's the same scenario. I'm in seat A with a pass I can move to seat Z. They used to then make seat A available for resale, the new system should make it easier to reintroduce that....my suggestion is that the people are already sat in seat z (currently empty), their traditional seat, so seat A is available. It really isn't difficult, and has been done before.

However, nobody will do it, because like you people are asking for nothing.

You feel nothing can be done. Sadly, because of views like that, nothing will be done, yet again . Which really is more the point.
 
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What's to stop somebody buying a seat in the corner for the cheapest but then sitting where they like once in the stadium? That's surely going to cost more money than the few using concession passes last season?
 
Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
It's the same scenario. I'm in seat A with a pass I can move to seat Z. They used to then make seat A available for resale, the new system should make it easier to reintroduce that....my suggestion is that the people are already sat in seat z (currently empty), their traditional seat, so seat A is available. It really isn't difficult, and has been done before.

However, nobody will do it, because like you people are asking for nothing.

You feel nothing can be done. Sadly, because of views like that, nothing will be done, yet again . Which really is more the point.
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I don't need anything, do you?

Things can be done, but not in the timeframe you seem to expect. Anything that is done is best targeted at getting the stadium seating and atmosphere at a complementary best practice, as if the intention is to reverse things then that will mean more evictions.

It easy putting a simple, but incomplete plan into a post, but not so simple in practice.

People like you really do talk endless nonsense. <ok>
 
Fez said:
I don't need anything, do you?

Things can be done, but not in the timeframe you seem to expect. Anything that is done is best targeted at getting the stadium seating and atmosphere at a complementary best practice, as if the intention is to reverse things then that will mean more evictions.

It easy putting a simple, but incomplete plan into a post, but not so simple in practice.

People like you really do talk endless nonsense. <ok>
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What absolute piffle.

You demonstrate you lack of understanding of the situation with every post.
With your weak, defeatist attitude, we can see clearly why the Allams ignore fans and do as they like.
 
dennisboothstash said:
What snide remarks were those?
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This snide remark.

dennisboothstash said:
I expect technically you're not supposed to transfer the ticket use, but practically it would be fine i assume seeing as how all seats in an area cost the same
I also know people that are buying their first pass for them and their kids...that's what happens when you get to the hallowed Premier League
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