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Ex-Manager Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ElliotMP, Mar 28, 2016.

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Who would you have as our next Manager

  1. Eddie Howe

    8.0%
  2. David Moyes

    3.3%
  3. Unai Emery

    45.1%
  4. Ryan Giggs

    1.9%
  5. Frank De Boer

    8.5%
  6. Steve Bruce

    2.3%
  7. André Villas-Boas

    22.1%
  8. Anyone that Uncle Les picks

    30.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Bill Hill

    Bill Hill Well-Known Member

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    Look there is a common denominator here. Pardew Adkins Poch Koeman all did well and to be frank with the exception of Poch, who annoyingly is bloody good, all of them have had up and down patchy managerial careers. The elephant in the room for those who like such phrases is southampton football club. That is the constant in all this. I love how everton hail koeman as their saviour because he did so well here, and he did do well here, but he did well at Southampton like several other managers did well at Southampton. Few clubs have as good an environment as ours for a manger to operate and thrive in. I will be disappointed to lose koeman but mainly because he seemed one of the few people in football to be honest and loyal and if this move happens and blows that apart it is another sword in the heart of football today. As far as saints are concerned so long as we don't faff about and have someone lined up so the summer doesnt become a farce I am not worried at all. Saints have proved that much to me in the last few years. We are in great shape.
     
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  2. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    Guan on Saintsweb has hinted that he is off.

    Just need to add Everton to the "list of clubs I hope we finish above/beat" along with Liverpool and Spurs.

    In a way, I think Koeman stitching us is worse than Poch, because he knows how hurt we all were about the previous 'meltdown'. Remember the fans forum when all the saints fans praised him for being a decent guy? Yeah - cheers Ron.
    Enjoy your new wage.

    Over to you Les. #InLesWeTrust
     
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  3. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    The reason why I have felt secure about Koeman up until now is that all his words have been nothing to do with money.
    When he came to Saints he said money was not important and not even talked about. He came across as a man inspired by ambition and being able to make the difference. It is this that doesn't add up for me. If we are to believe the smoke, he is going to give up the Europa League, his players who he has fashioned into his team, the setup, which was built around him, and go to a place that's at least a season away from doing anything, and where they are throwing money around like confetti. I don't get it. There's more to this story.
     
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  4. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    Yet not quite as disloyal as jumping on the Motorway and heading to Liverpool.

    I vote anyone that Uncle Les picks
     
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  5. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Amen. We've got weeks before pre-season begins and the club is in great shape. Best to lose a manager now, if we have to.
     
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  6. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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  7. Channonfodder

    Channonfodder Rebel without a clue.....

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    I agree. I don't think that this is just about the money.
     
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  8. ----HistoryRepeating----

    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    On the bight side Dusan is finalising a new five year deal now Ron's gone. <whistle>
     
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  9. Saint Sosa

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    Tbf Koeman himself probably hasn't met with Everton, a representative of his definitely has though.
     
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  10. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

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    I think it's simply the deal was too good to turn down. £6-7m a year and £100m transfer kitty.
     
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  11. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    They're starting to get how one goes about that, definitely. Silly though it sounds, you can't wait until a player overperforming their contract is midway through the deal before offering a new one, because by then they have the leverage...all of one's options with a player in the final two seasons of a contract are pretty bad, if they're delaying on signing a new one. We're off to a good start there, but there'll still be a bit of a lag before it bears fruit. Hopefully, this will be the last summer of wantaways.
     
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  12. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Yeah, I'd suggest that line from Lewis has almost no relevance whatsoever.
     
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  13. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Having a representative meet with Everton Is a whole lot different to making a personal appearance. This isn't done and dusted by any means.
     
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  14. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    There's no denying it, they are a massive club, and they would be an amazing team to take over - a good squad which has criminally underperformed. It won't take much to get them firing again, especially with some big investment.

    Doesn't stop it hurting though. I thought Ronald was different :(
     
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  15. Shepherd's Clearing

    Shepherd's Clearing Well-Known Member

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    Koeman's agent hasn't meet any representatives from Everton FC either......

    ....he phoned them up.
     
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  16. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    And all of those in "in the next 24 hours" tweets have a hollow ring now too.
     
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  17. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Exactly my thoughts. I know it's massive money, I know most would take it...this is business blah, blah, blah. However he pretended to be above such things...perhaps nearer to lallana than poch. Makes me sick.
     
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  18. Brixham Saint

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    Massive? Not really. Especially compared to the two Manchester clubs, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. Could also put Spurs into that bracket. Capacity of just over 40 thousand and an ageing squad with the likes of Baines, Barry, Jagielka etc, not to mention the players who want to leave like Lukaku and Stones? I think his job will be just as big if not bigger than when he took over saints 2 years ago.
    And the way there new owner and fans are going on, would they be happy spending 10 million on the calibre of players like Long, Tadic, mane etc, as we did? They all suddenly think they'll be competing for 20£ million pound plus players.
    One even phoned up talk sport today saying that Joe Hart will be signing after the euros. Well if Hodgson sticks with his "you're better off playing European football", that means Fraser will be England's number one next season? Lol
     
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  19. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    They are a traditionally big club, which means a lot to people of Koeman's age and stature I would imagine.
    They can offer more money, less chance of players leaving. He will go from having Wanyama knocking on his door asking to leave, to buying players in and building for the future. I can definitely see the attraction.

    Obviously, there are a lot of positives about staying with us as well. I was just thinking about it as if I was playing Football Manager. I think I'd be tempted too in his position.
     
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  20. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    They will be competing for 20m+ players. Hell, 75% of the PL will be.
     
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