You can have whatever catchment are you want, Bristol's must be huge, but if you don't offer the sort of experience people want, they won't go.
Given that more than half of City's season ticket holders live in the East Riding, I don't think much to the ides that urban areas are what counts. We have a massive area around us with no serious competing clubs in any direction. That should be a huge advantage but it hasn't been tapped into.
It would be interesting to note how far out into the East Riding those season pass holders are located, though. I don't think that 'massive area' is a real factor.
It's not only the owners, people want to see decent football. It's true we've produced it in patches but too many dire, lethargic performances have made the ticket prices seem a waste of money. I have a mate who's a WBA fan and he says he's stopped watching them under Pulis - and this is a PL team
That small place Brighton with a population of 280,000, urban population of 475,000 and metropolitan population of about 750,000?
They should **** off and watch Barser or Real Madrid then. What they really mean is 'famous players' and ' a winning team who plays at a very high level'.
I agree.the football has bored the soul out of the place.there is no pre- match buzz around the kc at all.love brucie but it's thanks and cheerio from me.and take the owners with you please.
Thats the thing aint it Cilly. People find other things to do and it isnt easy to tempt them back. I know personally at the minute I'll take a Saturday afternoon with a few ales with a few mates in the town over going to City. And its cheaper!!
[ A lot of those are just plain wrong. Brighton's population, as I replied in another post, is 280,000, urban area 475,000 similar to Hull. Portsmouth is nothing like Hull's. Wolverhampton doesn't have as large a population. Also a lot of them have nearby rivals. Go outside the city boundaries and there are nearby clubs, you can be in Elland Road living on the outskirts of Bradford quicker than you can get from Longhill to the KC. As for Sunderland, it is smaller than Hull but draws a lot of support from all over Wearside. Back in the old days when there were dozens up in court on Monday morning after a game against Sunderland there were loads from Chester Le Street, Durham, Washington, Houghton Le Spring and elsewhere. Saw City win at Roker Park in fron it 13,000 A couple of years later they had tens of thousands of life long fans wanting Wembley tickets and a couple of years after brought 16,000 down here. They were doing a survey of people going in to the ground. It turned out over 60% were from outside the city boundary. BTW, years ago they did a survey of PL season ticket holders. Turned out the club with the highest percentage living outside the postcode wasn't Man .Utd, they were third, Liverpool, they were second, it was Leeds.
Bristol has never been a particularly football mad area. We could take a leaf out of their book regarding utilising the waterfront. Though they have the advantage of having a decent river running into the city.
Agree. To paraphrase Mr Micawber, "More goals for us than against, even one, result happiness. More goals against us than for, result unhappiness". I want City to win. iIf I want entertaining I can always watch a so called big club on TV. Or go to the cinema or theatre (where there could possibly be more atmosphere).
That list shows that we are not even a top 30 team in this country which i would have thought the day we 1st got to premier league
They rarely clash. Indeed. I think the most untapped bit is within the City itself. I know loads of football fans in Hull who I've worked with or been to school with or whatever. Could talk to them about Leicester winning the league and other PL goings on for hours but the vast majority have never seen a live match. City really need to tap into that. Relatively to Hull.
Simple - As far as the owners are concerned - football success would be nice but it is far, far more important to p*** off the fans. If that means driving them all away and ultimately ruining the club then so be it. As someone said on here before 'nobody could make that many disastrous business decisions'. Especially a successful business man.
Obviously the Allams have alienated supporters. I think Bruce has too. The combination of premier league prices and performances which are not of that standard (we aren't top 3) is going to diminish support. Players play when they feel like it, we've seen that for some time, and they probably don't believe in the tactics as well. Even 2 seasons back at the end of the FA Cup run players just turned up for their appearance fee in the final league games. Once that's allowed it's hard to overturn it. The average time that players have been arsed in games this season is probably near 30 minutes. Even in the good runs there could be games like Ipswich away which depended on a brief spell of effort to get the win and the opposition being poor enough that we could hold out at the other times. I don't think the support issue is simply about bums on seats, it's about a general disillusionment and tiredness with what is on offer, and the Allams predictably have been completely out of the loop on it, as they always seem to be with the support.
There's actually twice as many season ticket holders at City who live outside the Hull boundary and they're all over, Anlaby, Hessle, Cottingham, Beverley, all the West Hull villages, all the East Hull villages, Brid, Withernsea etc. There are very few cities which have a single decent club within 30 miles, particularly in the Premier League, with a bit of sustained success and owners who didn't try and alienate the entire fan base, we could easily fill a 30k+ stadium.
I guy i work with goes the watch Leeds. He said that its just full of fans arriving in coaches form all parts of the country. Not many in the City actually give a crap about the football team
