The Official Man Utd & Liverpool plus Chelsea, Everton and City Banter Thread!

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!
Blimey.

This thread took a very different academic direction overnight. I thought I was turning everyone on to particle physics and the LHC. Now it seems you're a bunch of management consultants, including Dr Dave.

You around Swarbs? If you are, I'll show you mine :emoticon-0100-smile
 
It did,they tried to make out I was thick and I proved them wrong.I'm not thick I'm a Liverpool fan..not a Man Who supporter.
 
Yep, I'm here RHC. Showed you mine last night! ;)

Swarbs said:
Lol, Feynman, Schrodinger and Fleming are probably my top three. Feynman and Schrodinger cos they both recognised the limits and actual implications of what they were doing, and Fleming cos I can't think of any scientist to have had as great an impact on the world as him.
Click to expand...

Foredeckdave said:
Most MBAs from quality business schools would demand appropriate qualifications AND a level of practical experience before even considering an application. The MBAs that we see offered today are pale imitations of those originally offered by Harvard, London and Manchester Business Schools. I can assure you that an undergraduate would not have survived them.

No matter how intense your programme I can assure you that in 1 year you really did not scratch the surface. After 40 years of practicing and academic teaching and study, I am now able to realise that across the breadth of the study of management (leaving aside specialisms) I still know precious little and understand even less - despite qualifications that would blow your socks off.
Click to expand...

True, but then like you say management is so vast that it's impossible to do much more scratch the surface on a three year course. And you could say the same about any academic undergrad course imo - until you hit PhD level and start specialising you will never fully grasp the complexities of any science or arts subject. Ultimately all our course did was give us a frame through which to understand and interpret some of the concepts we encountered in our careers. And even then the practical process of management is often pretty far removed from the theory.
 
Swarbs said:
Yep, I'm here RHC. Showed you mine last night! ;)





True, but then like you say management is so vast that it's impossible to do much more scratch the surface on a three year course. And you could say the same about any academic undergrad course imo - until you hit PhD level and start specialising you will never fully grasp the complexities of any science or arts subject. Ultimately all our course did was give us a frame through which to understand and interpret some of the concepts we encountered in our careers. And even then the practical process of management is often pretty far removed from the theory.
Click to expand...

Morning Swarbs. Bet you enjoyed that result last night.

In order:

1. Charles Darwin - Completely altered man's conception of his place in the universe.

2. Isaac Newton - so many contributions it's hard to list them all.

3. Paul Dirac - Proved the existence of anti-matter. What a concept.

Special mentions for James Clark Maxwell, Albert Einstein, Nils Bohr, Watson and Crick (and the woman who's name I forget). Oh and of course Peter Higgs - if they find it!

Mind you Feynmann was quality, and from what I've read by him and about him, I'd definitely have enjoyed going out for a pint with him! We should never have given penicillin away to the Yanks!
 
Red Hadron Collider said:
Morning Swarbs. Bet you enjoyed that result last night.
Click to expand...

Yes :D

Red Hadron Collider said:
In order:

1. Charles Darwin - Completely altered man's conception of his place in the universe.

2. Isaac Newton - so many contributions it's hard to list them all.

3. Paul Dirac - Proved the existence of anti-matter. What a concept.

Special mentions for James Clark Maxwell, Albert Einstein, Nils Bohr, Watson and Crick (and the woman who's name I forget). Oh and of course Peter Higgs - if they find it!

Mind you Feynmann was quality, and from what I've read by him and about him, I'd definitely have enjoyed going out for a pint with him! We should never have given penicillin away to the Yanks!
Click to expand...

Niels Bohr is another one of my favourites - have you heard the anecdote about the barometer question he was asked at school?
 
Swarbs said:
Yep, I'm here RHC. Showed you mine last night! ;)





True, but then like you say management is so vast that it's impossible to do much more scratch the surface on a three year course. And you could say the same about any academic undergrad course imo - until you hit PhD level and start specialising you will never fully grasp the complexities of any science or arts subject. Ultimately all our course did was give us a frame through which to understand and interpret some of the concepts we encountered in our careers. And even then the practical process of management is often pretty far removed from the theory.
Click to expand...

Theory and practice are indeed very strange bedfellows. By the time that you do reach the rareified air of academia you then begin to wonder if it was really worth all the time and effort:emoticon-0108-speec.

Good to see the threadreturning to some (in)sanity:emoticon-0100-smile
 
Foredeckdave said:
Theory and practice are indeed very strange bedfellows. By the time that you do reach the rareified air of academia you then begin to wonder if it was really worth all the time and effort:emoticon-0108-speec.
Click to expand...

I remember hearing a great quote once, can't remember from where (I may even have made it up!):

"Ivory tower academia is all well and good...but somebody's gotta pay for that tower!"
 
Swarbs. No. Never read a Bohr biography. Do enlighten me. I can also recommend a very good book I've read recently called 'Quantum: Einstein, Bohr and the Great Debate about the nature of reality', by Manjit Kumar. If you've not read it, you should.

Sorry Doc Dave. Management theory leaves me cold, but you can have a go at warming me up if you want to.
 
Swarbs said:
I remember hearing a great quote once, can't remember from where (I may even have made it up!):

"Ivory tower academia is all well and good...but somebody's gotta pay for that tower!"
Click to expand...

it's more basic than that for me. Now get back to work and keep contributing to my pension!:)
 
Red Hadron Collider said:
Blimey.

This thread took a very different academic direction overnight. I thought I was turning everyone on to particle physics and the LHC. Now it seems you're a bunch of management consultants, including Dr Dave.

You around Swarbs? If you are, I'll show you mine :emoticon-0100-smile
Click to expand...

RHC, it must be something about being Scouse but you put in all the work and time and effort to get the award but then REFUSE to use the title. It just seems so meaninglessly arrogant to me - apart from Conclaves when you don't have to try and perch a mortar board on your head - but all that doffing gets on yer tits:emoticon-0100-smile
 
Red Hadron Collider said:
Swarbs. No. Never read a Bohr biography. Do enlighten me. I can also recommend a very good book I've read recently called 'Quantum: Einstein, Bohr and the Great Debate about the nature of reality', by Manjit Kumar. If you've not read it, you should.

Sorry Doc Dave. Management theory leaves me cold, but you can have a go at warming me up if you want to.
Click to expand...

Found it here:

http://simon-losingmyfaith.blogspot.com/2009/08/niels-bohr-and-barometer.html

I'm not sure if it's actually true, but it amuses me every time. <ok>

Foredeckdave said:
it's more basic than that for me. Now get back to work and keep contributing to my pension!:)
Click to expand...

Sorry mate, the only pensions I'm contributing to right now are for Medvedev and Putin :)
 
Constcrepe.

Trust you to despoil a scienfific discussion! It's OK - I can take it like a man!

Swarbs. That's quality and I can believe it's absolutely true. From that book I referred to, Bohr was that kind if bloke. So was Einstein!
 
Aurelio's Favourite Doctor said:
Northern Irish here too, which county etc you from?

Hard for the English ones to realise what supporting a football team is like over here.
Click to expand...

County Down (wee village called Dromara, about 10 miles outside Lisburn) but rent out in Belfast and have done since I started Uni. Handier for work and there's a lot more to do. One of my housemates is from Carrick. The only local teams I'd follow would be Dromara (though I'm usually in Belfast on saturdays) and Ards because I used to live there as a kid. Ards are in a really bad state right now.
 
Rosalind Franklin is hugely underrated, without her work, the structure of DNA may not have been discovered for years after it did. Her X-ray crystallography work that was crucial in Watson and Crick's understanding of the double helix structure and may have even been a cause for her cancer that caused her death.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom
Back