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People forget how incredibly unpopular the Thatcher government was before the Falklands, in fact the political wind was certainly (as far as I remember) blowing in the direction of the newly formed SDP. After the Falklands we had a "war leader" (always goes down well) and a "strong government" that never looked back. The SDP was doomed as well.
 
The "react" would have been political hot air.
The risks of military calamity were very high indeed, and the UK apparently had few friends
on the international stage (USA etc) who backed holding on to the Falklands.

A miracle the whole thing ended as it did.

Others hold the view that the occupation was complete "**** up" on the part of the British Government and that Tory back-benchers drove a largely unwilling cabinet into taking what was a high-risk strategy to stave off the likelihood of being routed at the '83 elections.

You pays your money and takes your choice. But like Cameron spending public money to publicise the vote for remaining in the EU, politicians are really in it for their own benefit and then their close allies. What we deserve comes well down the list of concerns.
 
Others hold the view that the occupation was complete "**** up" on the part of the British Government and that Tory back-benchers drove a largely unwilling cabinet into taking what was a high-risk strategy to stave off the likelihood of being routed at the '83 elections.

It was a total mess.

However, what it did do was infuse the feeling that anything great was once again possible in the
UK when you considered the above the odds efforts from everyone in the military (from the
unbelievable Vulcan bomber raid, to the "yomps" with above std kit weights in poor weather due
to the helicopter losses etc) .
 
People forget how incredibly unpopular the Thatcher government was before the Falklands, in fact the political wind was certainly (as far as I remember) blowing in the direction of the newly formed SDP. After the Falklands we had a "war leader" (always goes down well) and a "strong government" that never looked back. The SDP was doomed as well.

Being in my early teens, all the adults on my estate etc seemed to be rejuvenated by the
formation of the SDP. But when they formed the alliance with the Liberals, that
appeared to evaporate quickly (not sure if adults had previous from the Lib-Lab stuff in
the 1970s) .
 
I'd like to see arrests next. Start at the top.
Start at the top! <laugh>
I'll name her. Thatcher. The name sends a chill down my spine. Apart from the war, all the others linked. She used the police for her own political gain, and gave them too much power, in order to beat the working class down. Evil Thatcher.
Hey, at least the British public will never elect another bunch of Tories that'll abuse their positions and privatise everything in sight, eh?
(Checks headlines. Smashes face off desk.)
 
Start at the top! <laugh>

Hey, at least the British public will never elect another bunch of Tories that'll abuse their positions and privatise everything in sight, eh?
(Checks headlines. Smashes face off desk.)
I have a feeling it was done by accident. Centrist voters wanted to punish the Lib Dems for supporting the Tories but hadn't worked out that under our crazy electoral system that would actually lead to the Tories getting an overall majority. In both the last two elections, if more Labour voters had voted Lib Dem in key seats we would have ended up with a Lab/Lib Dem coalition.
 
I have a feeling it was done by accident. Centrist voters wanted to punish the Lib Dems for supporting the Tories but hadn't worked out that under our crazy electoral system that would actually lead to the Tories getting an overall majority. In both the last two elections, if more Labour voters had voted Lib Dem in key seats we would have ended up with a Lab/Lib Dem coalition.
It was done deliberately, but not by the voters.
The Tories pushed the SNP while simultaneously fear-mongering about a coalition to the non-Scots.
They put forward a consistent message and made a lot of claims about things that voters saw positively.
Virtually all of it was utter nonsense, but that's completely irrelevant now.

Labour and the Lib-Dems lost touch with a lot of their core voters and sent out weak, mixed messages.
You don't win if people don't have a good idea of what you're claiming to stand for, even if that's not what you stand for at all.
 
I suspect that is alluded to here by Teresa May
"The House will understand that I cannot comment in detail on matters that may lead to a criminal investigation. I can however say that the offences under investigation include gross negligence, maslaughter, misconduct in public office, perverting the course of justice and perjury, as well as offences under the safety of Sports Grounds Act 1975 and the Health and Safety At Work Act 1974."
All of which points to action against either Sheffield Wednesday or members of Sheffield council, not The FA or the Football League.
 
I don't doubt that, but the war wasn't about beating the 'riff-raff' down to make them obey those in charge.

Anyway, Evil Witch has taken up enough of this thread already. She may have destroyed my family, but my loss doesn't compare to the suffering of the 96's families.

I'd like to see arrests next. Start at the top.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...ict-fa-could-face-corporate-criminal-charges/

We'll see what happens., It seems clear to me the FA knew the Hillsborough safety certificate was expired and that the stadium was a "death trap" as they were told exactly that. Corporate criminals describes the FA very well, I think.
 
I'll name her. Thatcher. The name sends a chill down my spine. Apart from the war, all the others linked. She used the police for her own political gain, and gave them too much power, in order to beat the working class down. Evil Thatcher.
Thatcher and Reagan were a pair, down to the wars to make them popular. (For Reagan it was Granada.). Those popularity building wars may be the worst of it. They are probably going to be the things that are going to kill our great grandchildren, or grandchildren, or children. First it was the little wars for the Falklands, against Granada. Now the US is killing Muslims more or less at random in a huge part of the world. Chickens come home to roost eventually.
 
Roberto Soldado: ‘What let me down at Tottenham was my head wasn’t right'

What let you down was :

1. An utterly slow and impotent attacking MF behind you, and certainly not
serving your strengths

2. Perhaps not adapting to the reduced time in the PL for
decision-making
 
I only went to Hillsboro twice.!960.Our first defeat in our double season to Sheff Wed and 1967 when we beat Notts Forest in the FA Cup semi final.
On both occasions the place was packed....and we had no trouble at all.

I can remember standing in my favourite spot in Paxton Road.We would be launched forward sometimes and again I don't remember anyone getting hurt!
In fact,I thought it was all good fun.
 
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BTW, what is the single error?

Edit - looked it up online. The mistake isn't shown in the pic

Can you explain what it was? I couldn't find the original. Got me wound up as I looked at the pic for quite a while without being able to work out what was wrong. And as you say, there isn't anything that you can see here.
 
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Can you explain what it was? I couldn't find the original. Got me wound up as I looked at the pic for quite a while without being able to work out what was wrong. And as you say, there isn't anything that you can see here.
In the full picture it has the word the at the end of a line and also at the start of the next line , effectively the the. Not shown in the pic above.

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Obviously you are supposed to think there is a problem with the numbers, not the text.
 
Thanks for posting the original, much appreciated. I've seen that sort of thing before with two "the", so might have spotted it.

It went something like this:

PARIS
IN THE
THE SPRING

But it's drawn within a triangle (if you see what I mean). Same idea, but there's much more to distract you in the puzzle above.
 
Just read this.
3 Americans caught a 180 pound fish (Carp) while fishing in Thailand last year.......by mixing their dead friends ashes with regular bait......and how is your Monday going?