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Sakho Suspended For Failing Doping Test.

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  1. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    All the more reason for us to sign another defender in the summer.

    Disappointed but unfortunately, you can't just claim ignorance and expect to get away with it.

    Yet another curveball thrown at Klopp.
     
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  2. Lucaaas

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    No one's saying it doesn't help. I'm just saying Fabio Borini can run as far and as much as he wants per game, he'll still never be Zlatan Ibrahimovic, who probably only runs half as much as Borini does.
     
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  3. Zanjinho

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    No smoke without fire.

    For there to have been traces initially then he must have taken something at some point.

    IMO six months isn't enough. Rio got nine months for deliberately missing a test!
     
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    All true.

    Let's everyone down cos rodgers was gone months so there no excuse unless he thinks he's a pig to eat and thinks injury = take pills to lose weight
     
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  5. ademuzzy

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    How does the A and B sample work?
     
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  6. Lucaaas

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    It should be similar to the Kolo case, in my opinion. If they are happy with Sakho not deliberately trying to cover use of enhancing drugs or using them as enhancing drugs then it shouldn't be a massively long ban. Regardless of what we think we should be planning for 2 years without Sakho though, we can't risk going into next season hoping he'll be back pretty sharpish and he gets banned for 2 years +.
     
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  7. ademuzzy

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    How long before a decision about Kolo was reached?
     
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  8. Zanjinho

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    I was wondering this. My guess would be that the B sample is from a different game or recently provided
     
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  9. ademuzzy

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    Is this Gerrez?
     
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  10. astro

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    Do you think painkillers should be banned?
     
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  11. astro

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    You provide 2 separate samples in case one gets contaminated or analysed by a moron
     
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    Thought it might be something like that.
     
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  13. Tobes

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    Everyday use Painkillers aren't performance enhancing, daft argument
     
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  14. astro

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    Your performance would clearly be better with them than without

    Anyway the next step is then to consider other drugs that help but are based on "recovery" rather than "enhancement"

    Anything that's based on repairing the body must be considered medicine and it would probably be against human rights to ban, but recovering from a game of football in time for the next one is clearly enhancing the performance in the second game

    What is the actual definition used to distinguish between acceptable and not?
     
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  15. DirtyFrank

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    Always wondered that...like anti inflammatory injections before a game.

    Although since playing on an injury can result in long term damage and shorten a career I'd assume it's not done as much these days.

    Didn't Owen get loads of injections so he could play...
     
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  16. Tobes

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    It's simple - anything that improves performance and is a drug....

    I.e. Performance enhancing.......
     
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  17. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Cortozone injections? With one you can play, without you can't. That's pretty performance enhancing.

    It's a grey area in my opinion.

    Sakhos an idiot for what ever he's taken. 6 month ban minimum, you're got that because of the circumstances but other drug bans could be 2 years so he'll be lucky to only get 6 months.

    He'll plead ignorance no doubt but he's potentially just ruin the best part of his career and will miss European championships in his home country. Only himself to blame.

    Inteigued as as to how wages work if he is suspended for 6-12months so we still pay him?
     
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  18. Tobes

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    Pain killers and anti inflammatories aren't performance enhancing, they're just masking the symptoms of muscle injuries.
     
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  19. Tobes

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    It's not grey at all. Performance enhancing is anything that can provide an unnatural increase in performance as a direct result of the drug being used. Cortisone injections don't increase the performance of the muscle itself, it's just a mask for an injury
     
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  20. DirtyFrank

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    So strictly to that definition...player carrying injury without pain killers -performance poor. Same player given pain killers pre match - performance improved.

    All substances entering the body are a chemical...oxygenated blood transfusions aren't unnatural being the players own blood not a drug but considered cheating.

    When is it about gaining advantage and being a risky or harmful practice?
     
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