Mouser Watch #2

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It was their first away win of the season ! I know which approach I'd prefer. The same logic that applies to them basically throwing the towel in on la liga (that they don't stand a chance of winning it) surely applies even more so to the CL...so what do they hope to gain from it other than 15 minutes of fame and some money that'll probably be enough to get them within 20 points of Barca next season?

I know I'm pretty biased on the topic as I've said since day 1 that the EL should be used to experiment with different formations and line ups and to blood in new signings/youngsters, but in all honesty there just isn't any point in winning it (other than the shiny trophy) if you're miles away from the standard required for the CL. Dortmund, Villareal and maybe Shaktar are the only teams who are at that level already, largely because they regularly compete in the CL as it is.

The whole 'reward' seems to be in place to service the teams who dropped out of the CL into the EL in the first place, because for majority of the other competitors, winning a golden ticket to the CL will end up being simply humiliating.
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Understandably but yes, I did have your lot in mind when I wrote it <laugh>

It's essentially a case of running before you can walk. Let's say you win the EL *shudders as bile enters mouth*. Now; if Klopp can rebuild your patchwork squad and train them up to the level that they can compete in the CL without embarrassing all of England as well as challenge for the top 4, the man is an absolute miracle worker. My point is that it is almost impossible to envision you - or anyone for that matter, I would've said the same thing about Spurs last season - progressing that quickly...so how exactly is this 'prize' a reward?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but finishing in the top 4 is usually a better indication of preparedness for CL level than progress in the EL? And if a team is regularly top 4, what do they need the EL for unless they stupidly do a United and fail to qualify from the easiest group in the tournament and the EL then offers them another backhanded roll of the dice...
 
Understandably but yes, I did have your lot in mind when I wrote it <laugh>

It's essentially a case of running before you can walk. Let's say you win the EL *shudders as bile enters mouth*. Now; if Klopp can rebuild your patchwork squad and train them up to the level that they can compete in the CL without embarrassing all of England as well as challenge for the top 4, the man is an absolute miracle worker. My point is that it is almost impossible to envision you - or anyone for that matter, I would've said the same thing about Spurs last season - progressing that quickly...so how exactly is this 'prize' a reward?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but finishing in the top 4 is usually a better indication of preparedness for CL level than progress in the EL? And if a team is regularly top 4, what do they need the EL for unless they stupidly do a United and fail to qualify from the easiest group in the tournament and the EL then offers them another backhanded roll of the dice...
Yes yes if you look at it from a purely cl wild card perspective CK then everything you say makes complete sense but it adds prestige to the Europa for one, and also gives clubs who may never qualify for the cl maybe due their country's co efficient.

Anyone winning the Europa should be more than capable of having a decent cl showing anyway. The gulf between savilla and say cruj is not that great.

And most importantly its a bloody good trophy to win. Any cup is worth winning imo.
 
I know I'm pretty biased on the topic as I've said since day 1 that the EL should be used to experiment with different formations and line ups and to blood in new signings/youngsters

For the group stages, certainly.


but in all honesty there just isn't any point in winning it (other than the shiny trophy) if you're miles away from the standard required for the CL. Dortmund, Villareal and maybe Shaktar are the only teams who are at that level already, largely because they regularly compete in the CL as it is. The whole 'reward' seems to be in place to service the teams who dropped out of the CL into the EL in the first place, because for majority of the other competitors, winning a golden ticket to the CL will end up being simply humiliating.

Getting into the CL group stage is easy money for starters, regardless of how you perform.
It brings your club greater exposure in the world of potential sponsors.
To consistently survive in the CL, you have to start somewhere (if from humiliation, so be it) .

If winning the EL is your easiest route to that path, take it.
 
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Get him told RDBD!

devaluing a comp because you couldnt cut it, tut tut CK <laugh>
 
Sucky cannot. He lacks the intellectual ability to be a Wum Master. Wumming the Gooner board and taking bites of IQ87 is about as high as he can, realistically, expect to climb on the Wum-ladder.
 
Raise your attempted Spurs WUM game, you mid-table team supporter !!!
What are you faffin about RDBD?

Ck said the europa winners cl slot was pointless/a joke/not worth it, as they would be nothing but fodder for teams who have "progressed" to qualify. Its easier to say that when your out of it i suppose but its a rubbish statement imo

now whats all this about wumming?
 
CK thinks theres no point winning the europa apart from a shiny trophy

you spurs fans <laugh>
 
What are you faffin about RDBD?

Ck said the europa winners cl slot was pointless/a joke/not worth it, as they would be nothing but fodder for teams who have "progressed" to qualify.

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but in all honesty there just isn't any point in winning it (other than the shiny trophy) if you're miles away from the standard required for the CL
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Is there a not606 WUM wannabee reading "SAT" test out there ??
 
ive been wumming you lot for months, cant you all see that youve fallen for my master wummery? <laugh>


i also sell houses for bazzilionz of pounds.
 
We've been watching you buzz around in this article for months, colliding ever more
frequently with its glass windows as the season passes. Yet thinking that the "light" you see
on the other side of the glass spells out "next year is our year" .
 
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but in all honesty there just isn't any point in winning it (other than the shiny trophy) if you're miles away from the standard required for the CL
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Is there a not606 WUM wannabee reading "SAT" test out there ??
so if you won the europa, and got Maribor in the groups of the cl, whos the fodder, you or them?
 
Is there a not606 WUM wannabee reading "SAT" test out there ??

I am thinking of setting up the HIAG WUM Examination Board (HWEB, for short), and devising a set of exams, in order to grade would-be wumsters, as follows:-

GRADE 1: ability to use gentle ribbing techniques in order to get bites out of bell-end posters
GRADE 2: ability to use advanced wum techniques in order to get slightly more intelligent posters to take you seriously
GRADE 3: ability to ensnare all-comers with a rich variety of techniques
WUM MASTER: the ability to assume an alter-ego to ensnare wums and hand back to them their arses on a regular basis

I think Sucky will find it very difficult to make it past GRADE 1, tbh.
 
I am thinking of setting up the HIAG WUM Examination Board (HWEB, for short), and devising a set of exams, in order to grade would-be wumsters, as follows:-

GRADE 1: ability to use gentle ribbing techniques in order to get bites out of bell-end posters
GRADE 2: ability to use advanced wum techniques in order to get slightly more intelligent posters to take you seriously
GRADE 3: ability to ensnare all-comers with a rich variety of techniques
WUM MASTER: the ability to assume an alter-ego to ensnare wums and hand back to them their arses on a regular basis

I think Sucky will find it very difficult to make it past GRADE 1, tbh.
you assume i have no life Haig, thats not true, i have weed to smoke.