AG: That's ,ore or less my thought. There are some fans who wish our manager would rise up in defiance of MA to defend the club, in some noble Keegan-esque way. While I can undestand the sentiment, at the end of the day KK's glorious defiance didn't do us a lot of fabvours. Sooner or later, someone actually has to put a team out on the pitch, which means dealing with the owner's decisions even if you'r not crazy about them.
Agree with everything in the original post, got to say thought he was up against it when took us over in 2009, but it now seems he's somehow ended up at a club in a far worse mess with even worse owners. Hope he can produce a miracle and get them promoted.
I agree with everything in the original post and I still find it disgraceful that he was sacked. I also like Pardew he has done well (pretty much the same as Hughton) and he too seems like a genuinely nice guy.
I have no problem with Pardew, he could neve turn the job down and his style is spot on, he has to keep the team and fans on side and deal with Ashley, not many would relish that.
For me its too early to judge Pardew, always said the time to judge him is next season when he has his own team. But Hughton shouldn't have been sacked and yes you are right that Pardew was never going to the turn the job down, said it at the time, it was the best job opportunity he was ever going to get.
Agree with this. How many of us in our own jobs never cease to be amazed at inane, inept decisions that management make. However, we just have to grin & bear it & get on with it.
Hughton should never have been sacked, and was a brilliant person full of characteristics dying off pretty quickly in football - dignity, class, loyalty. Truly hope he gets Birmingham promoted and then he ends up with a good club, chairmen and fans that he deserves. A lot of people though will use anything they can against Pardew to make it seem like we now have a worse manager though, and while that might turn out to be true, but the "puppet" line is getting old - the first thing he did when he joined the club was tie Steven Taylor down to a 5 year deal on pretty high wages, when Ashley wanted to sell him.
I don't understand, defend the club in what way? We've made some decent signings, improving the facilities and training ground, why the need to rise up in defiance of a guy who's put £238,000,000 (roughly) into the club? Yeah he's not perfect & made mistakes but he's not a Pompey Arab or Carson Yeung or Thaksin Shinawatra who were quite frankly crooks.
Exactly mate, I'm not trying to defend Fat Mike's behaviour or actions just saying it could have been a lot worse.
I am not really sure exactly what defence they think should be made. Threaten to resign unless more mone is spent ? Throw public wobblies over the sale of Carroll ? Declare that MA is evil ? Something along those lines I think. They would make great copy for the red tops, but can't see it doing anyone else much good.
Problem with the Mags is MA. Hughton seems a top bloke and given more of a chance, maybe could have achieved something, maybe even a top half finish. Don't think Pardew is that bad really, seems to have his own ideas, but financial restrictions being placed upon him by the fat man is unfair. So the main problem for both of these two Mr nice guys is, their boss, but at the end of the day, he does own the club.
Would feel a right ass bringin a donkey Back on topic, I think many fans dislike Pardew over the way he was brought in and because of the harsh sacking of Hughton. Just go's to show that he was such a nic guy if even Sunderland fans liked him, haven't seen a gentlemanly figure at either of our clubs since Sir Bobby.
Do you spend a lot of time paying attention to Newcastle or something . No think your spot on about Ashley, think every manager we've had apart from Allardyce and possibly Kinnear have had financial restrictions from Ashley
Some pretty decent people have had to bear the brunt of some ruthless chairmen in the past, look at Zola at West Ham,although not a manager Wilkins at Chelsea and then Carlos Ancelotti who looked like a broken man by the end of last season.
