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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Unless the GOP can come up with some mechanism to derail both of them, I think I would take Trump over Cruz. Trump doesn't actually believe a lot of what he says. He's an opportunist and in being so he's less dangerous than Cruz, who seems to be a downright nasty piece of work. Trump is a figure of fun - let's have a Trump-Sanders contest.

    Go Bernie!
     
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    I don't think there is any chance of the GOP candidate becoming president, whoever it is. Shame Col. Wilkerson isn't standing.

    Here we go Question Time. Labour bloke quite good, whoever he is.
     
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    Yeah, the good Colonel seems to be just the kind of person I would like to see in charge. What was intriguing about his interview was that he seems to believe that there's some kind of new hippy generation out there. Exaggeration probably, but it's an encouraging thought. Sanders has very strong support amongst young people in the US, as does Corbyn here - perhaps because the new generation of voters have spent all of their teen years in straitened times caused by the excesses of Capitalism.
     
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    He's an absolute tit.
    The economis Ruth Lea ran rings around him.
    Like most on the left of politics, he thinks that as long as he shouts and interrupts, he will prevail.
    The Tory was just as bad. Can't stand her either.
     
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    cor blymie Well-Known Member

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    I thought we edged it against the Remanians in last nights unbiased QT on the Brexit question
     
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    Only watched it for 5 minutes, I'm sure you are right, he had a decent first response. 'Like most on the left of politics...' Nice generalisation Col.

    Elsewhere, the government's top obesity advisor (the fat Tsar?) has said that obese people should not be blamed for being obese because they are genetically programmed to eat too much and food is easily available to them. Even if this is true, which it may be I'm not a scientist, does it also mean they have to eat crisps and chocolate rather than more healthy stuff? I've been to supermarkets, they seem to have an array of stuff on offer. But the psychology of this is very interesting, where craving (and obesity is obviously an addiction, and a particularly dull one at that) overcomes fear of the consequences. Where this woman is definitely wrong in my experience is saying that 'it takes a superhuman effort of willpower to reduce food intake'. No it doesn't. I have very poor willpower but, motivated by fear, I have changed my diet entirely over the last few months (not specifically to lose weight). It's been easy, I'm never hungry and I feel much better, and still eat and drink very tasty stuff. It's just about substituting habits. Have a banana instead of 5 biscuits.

    And even if the Fat Tsar is right, surely telling people that 'there's nothing you can do about it' will just make them feel worse?
     
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    TWGWTDT Well-Known Member

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    I fly twice a month or more and always wear a bomb suit like the ones in hurt locker but then again I have my own helicopter

    Be safe Pixies
     
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    I really can't be arsed to repeat myself mate.
    I'm sure I've outlined many examples many times before. We all just go around in circles with people trying to show that they're the more knowledgeable.
    The main point I was making was this. If, as seems likely, it will be tricky to leave their club, because the EU have constructed things that way. That shows just how in control they are of our sovereign country.
    There are many unelected beaurocrats at the very top of the EU and I don't want to be run by a dictatorship in auUnited States of Europe.
     
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    I mostly agree with you.
    However, it's not always easy for poorer people to have the time or financial resources to eat healthier.
    Fruit is reasonably cheap but with all due respect, it's a lot easier for you to obtain all the healthy options that you require than a single mum on ten grand a year.
     
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    Just has a look at this and seems you are right, it costs about £1 per person a day more to eat healthily, which is significant when you multiply it for a family and add it up over a year, especially if you are on a limited income. But that is calculated assuming you consume the same amount of calories however well or otherwise you eat. Obviously for the obese they should be looking to eat less calories, whether they come from healthy or unhealthy foods. Better off eating no biscuits if you want to lose weight, but failing that 3 instead of 5. Or, as I am finding, one glass of wine instead of two. OK usually 3.
     
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    Your own helicopter or a massive chopper?
     
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    No it's my own design: instead of rotors I attact myself direct to a 52cc petrol driven auger used for drilling out fence posts . I have got up to 6800rpm using illegal chemicals but I fear the idea won't get off the ground
    Plus I've lost my helmet
     
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    I was once thrown across a garden by one of those augers!
     
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    I have one Col and yes they are beasts of you hit a rock or a root
    I am using mime to build pillar footings for a yoga platform for my lady ... Good kit and certainly learns those bramble roots
     
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    The one I was using was a double handled beast!
    It hit a rock and we were both sent flying!
    Very powerful bits of kit.
     
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    While it wasn't as beast like as those things, many years ago I used to operate a Reckitt and Colman industrial floor polisher. Get the technique wrong and it would hurl you against the wall and take off somewhere on its own.

    I don't get why the Archbishop of Canterbury being a bastard is the top news story. Nothing he can do about it and he doesn't seem too bothered, why are the news stations?

    Lot of stuff about unaccompanied refugee kids in Calais, many with relations in the UK, being kept in the camps at Calais for months while being 'processed'. Could we not make an exception for these children, get them over here for 'processing'?
     
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    Should unaccompanied kids in France not be in the care of French social services
     
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    They are. Should they be cared for by their families?
     
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    Paints the wrong picture in a way as I think France has to be one of the most family orientated countries I have visited ... My local restaurant is a snapshot of that will generations sharing family meals everyday
    They are poor however at dealing with what they look at as foreign and cities throughout France have major problems ... If people are not in the system then they are neglected big time and I haven't seen a change in 35 years
    There is a completely different culture here as here one child dies as was on last nights news and it's a headline ... Well it's a blame story really. The BBC wouldn't keep up abroad with kids dying and we are fed a load of crock that we are a truly caring nation . They reported last night that there 600,000 cases last year in the UK of child neglect and 60,000 children sent into foster homes so what is being done?

    Very little until a headline surfaces

    So instead they post a story about small children in Calais

    Worse still once a year they tape the whole together with Children in Need

    It's rubbish because we can't even get our own country in order on the subject we brush it all away

    Children in need? Look in the UK first because there is massive problems and that is also with UK poverty laws in place ... It's a disgrace and a out and out lie
     
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    I wasn't having a go at France, just saying that refugees who are kids with relations in the UK and no adults to look out for them in a refugee camp should be fast tracked to the UK, whether they are in France, Turkey, Lebanon or Jordan.

    The Italians are better with kids than the French though.
     
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