1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

International Thread Part Trois

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by fran-MLs little camera, Jun 5, 2015.

  1. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    Whilst I would never over-hype Rooney, I have to be fair and remind you that Charlton took 105 caps to score all his goals. The truly world class striker with the great record England had presents MOTD on Saturday nights. Alan Shearer was great as well, but not in Lineker's class.

    However, as mentioned before, I'd leave Rooney at home. Time to burn the bridges.
     
    #1501
  2. benditlikeabanana

    benditlikeabanana Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2011
    Messages:
    3,745
    Likes Received:
    647
    Really could not understand why welbeck started ahead of vardy. Kane is not one to lead a line as he tends to wander, vardy and Kane should be played together. Do not stick vardy on the left but give both free reign to pull the defence apart with their movement
     
    #1502
  3. VVD

    VVD Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2011
    Messages:
    5,532
    Likes Received:
    2,326
    I imagine Cahill will be first choice CB. Hopefully Stones can have a good run of games, smalling has good attributes but is brainless
     
    #1503
  4. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Messages:
    57,300
    Likes Received:
    40,066
    Shearer and Lineker were two different types of striker.id have liked to have seen them together.
     
    #1504
  5. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    Yeah Shearer was traditionally British, and Lineker was European in style.
     
    #1505
    fatletiss likes this.
  6. VVD

    VVD Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2011
    Messages:
    5,532
    Likes Received:
    2,326
    Kane and Vardy playing means 2 up front, which is brave although it worked yesterday. With Welbeck we can play 1 up front and pack the middle of the pitch
     
    #1506
    OddRiverOakWizards likes this.
  7. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2011
    Messages:
    13,360
    Likes Received:
    5,041
    I think I'd leave Walcott behind as well. Never really been impressed by him.
     
    #1507
  8. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    From what I could see they played 4-3-3 at times. Or if you want to be picky 4-3-2-1.
     
    #1508
  9. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    Agreed. And Oxo, though I don't think he's even in the running anymore. If Hodgson took [a fit] Wilshere I'd laugh really hard. :)
     
    #1509
  10. Whiteley Saint

    Whiteley Saint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2014
    Messages:
    7,639
    Likes Received:
    5,174

  11. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Messages:
    57,300
    Likes Received:
    40,066
    You'd be laughing on the other side of your face (like us all) when he limps of injured 20 minutes into a game as we arch another tournament crumble! :(
     
    #1511
  12. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2011
    Messages:
    22,888
    Likes Received:
    11,531
    Butland out for around three months with a fractured ankle.
     
    #1512
  13. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2011
    Messages:
    39,297
    Likes Received:
    39,229
    Poor lad, that's heartbreaking for him. Conceivably he'll be fit in time for the Euro's but he'd be a risk.
     
    #1513
  14. Plastique Bertrand

    Plastique Bertrand Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2011
    Messages:
    1,245
    Likes Received:
    203
    I thought Smalling was clearly the better of the two on Saturday. Cahill is a decent PL player, but Smalling has had a far better season and is building on his attributes, he could become a quality international CB. Stones needs a lot game time from now on during this spate of friendlies.
     
    #1514
  15. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    I believe my inclination was to suggest he stays at home. :)
    Trouble is, I think Roy is possibly loyal enough to take the young ciggie smoker. He's got to be fit though, and there's small chance of that.
     
    #1515
  16. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    Messages:
    39,383
    Likes Received:
    8,819
    Hooray. Good lad.
     
    #1516
  17. Pelletron

    Pelletron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2011
    Messages:
    3,360
    Likes Received:
    1,139
    The list is too long in all probability! But as you have moved the goalposts slightly and refer to Europe only (or else you have serious national team glasses on; I refer to world football, as per my reference), I would add France, Italy and Netherlands to your list, though the latter clearly struggling with cohesion at the moment, as do all teams at stages. Italy we all know are tactically light years ahead of us at even their lowest ebb. So that is five teams at least in a tournament of 24, plus Wales I am sure have it in them to gain a point at minimum against this England team, given their collective superior overall international experience, lower expectation on their shoulders, and tons more of the stuff (cliches like heart, fight etc.)t hat made England traditionally so good

    Let me tell you where I stand - and I'm not drawn at all into hype post the friendly. I am very happy with the England team picks - I have always been pro picking raw, young talent, plus clearing out the old. I am excited on that front, and applaud Hodgson there - even though some of his picks are forced by injury. I am disheartened by tendencies of the national team to injure players for clubs, seemingly every time; and also of the national setup's tendency to strip rawness and character out of players very quickly. Even Clive Tyldesley said he wanted to preach caution to (game's best player) Alli about some aspects of his game - thanks **** he doesn't get to do that, but it sums up the approach washed/dyed into the England national setup's approach to raw talent.

    I can see we don't have the defensive solidity required to compete in a tournament, when teams like Germany can ramp up effortlessly to a level above what we can. It stands that there may be some exciting individual performances and moments, but I don't expect us to get anywhere. That is what I was saying in my post. It really does show how important a player like Wayne Rooney is for us, despite having any edge ironed out of his England game too. I also prefer to see a team go out there without him, or at least not being so reliant on him, so allowing new blood through. As for your error you say I pointed out, I'm not sure what you're getting at...
     
    #1517
  18. Pelletron

    Pelletron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2011
    Messages:
    3,360
    Likes Received:
    1,139
    Get ready to be disappointed!
     
    #1518
  19. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2012
    Messages:
    14,262
    Likes Received:
    23,732
    Might just be that Roy wants to start Vardy againt N'lands. Don't think Leicester would be too chuffed if he had to play the full 180 minutes of both games.
     
    #1519
    Archers Road likes this.
  20. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Messages:
    57,300
    Likes Received:
    40,066
    I realise what you meant and I agree... But as an England fan, the laughing at his inclusion will go wrong!! :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
    #1520

Share This Page