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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    At present our poll is a pretty accurate reflection of the National polls...

    55.6% In
    44.4% Out

    Unless there's a seismic revelation to affect voting I think that'll be roughly the outcome on polling day...
     
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  2. Jimbo ranger

    Jimbo ranger Active Member

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    This !!!! Look after your own first and if any thing left to give , give it . ****ing hate this country , gone to **** , if I could leave I would trust me .
     
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  3. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Why can't you?
     
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  4. Jimbo ranger

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    My business is built here not Antigua ,

    I have seen the country being dissolved and loosing it's identity . It's soon becoming the worlds dumping ground . The emigration policy of the last 30 years has completely eroded everything that this country fought hard to earn.
     
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    cor blymie Well-Known Member

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    I think you are probably right, but that won't be the end of it. There is too much happening in Europe, the British are not the only ones unhappy with the EU
     
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  6. TWGWTDT

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    It's seems that a lot of issues are around migrants
    People now blaming that on a lazy UK culture that had developed
    The U.K. has only itself to blame Bd it's justice at last IMO

    Just look at what was allowed to happen to a once great country and the people who believe it's still great need to wake up. If the city money leaves then it will put the UK back 10-15 years. They cannot compete without Europe or against Europe
     
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  7. Sooperhoop

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    I don't see another referendum coming in my lifetime. We only got this one because Cameron thought he could get away with such a promise because everyone expected another hung Parliament and the Lib Dems would have demanded he drop the referendum to get their support to form another coalition. Winning the election outright dropped him right in it when he never had any intention of leaving the EU so he's fighting tooth and nail to keep us in and take out his major 'enemy' within his own party (BoJo) at the same time.

    If we stay in no PM would promise another referendum...
     
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  8. TWGWTDT

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    Time it's all thrashed out the vote from a small turn out will 65/35 to stay in IMO I say that because you will see the pressure ramped up by the real powers and that isn't the stupid puppet politicians
     
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  9. cor blymie

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    but it is all of Europe now that is becoming more and more uncomfortable with the influx of immigrants. Including France you keep crowing about
     
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    Our Canadian experience with the Province of Quebec:-

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  11. cor blymie

    cor blymie Well-Known Member

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    I'm not suggesting there be another referendum, what I'm saying is there will be major unrest on the continent
     
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    I don't doubt that for a minute, Germany is already turning against Merkel and the Danes and Swedes are nearing breaking point. Something will happen in the next year or so that will turn the majority against the influx and mainland Europe will become a very different place for migrants...
     
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    Looks like a messy result. Forgive my ignorance but what's the difference between Gael and Fail? Seems they have ruled out going into coalition together.
     
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    Very messy Stan. We are going to have some mongrel government at the end of it all. I think we will be back at the polls again within 12 months.
     
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    No offence, but that is nonsense! He promised a referendum to win the election by taking away a reason for Tory voters to vote UKIP and it worked, the referendum is a byproduct of that. He's already stated categorically that he won't be running for reelection so there is no 'enemy within' for him, the party will elect whoever they want to run next and take over.
     
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    Sorry, but I don't believe the referendum made any difference to voters, it was the prospect of Miliband being Sturgeon's glove puppet that swung it...
     
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    That was certainly a big factor, but the offer of an eu referendum stopped the Tories hemeraging voters to UKIP, it definitely played a part in the win!
     
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    Bollocks is it I travel a lot througH France. I challenge any UK report about the chaos they write about
    The areas around the Somme are beautiful lots of small villages and no crime wave and very little problems

    Europe is big enough to allow millions into it

    The UK believes in fear and then moans about it . Tomorrow everyone will go to work in their own little worlds and not really care about anyone else ... They just have to focus on the debt they are in
     
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  19. Sooperhoop

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    France is a huge country in comparison to the UK so they have plenty of room for the influx, but I'm sure the residents of Calais aren't singing from your songsheet...
     
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    Bloody hell, find myself in agreement with Rod Liddle in the Sunday Times, which is unusual. He has a pop at Sacha Baron Cohen and his new film Grimsby, which is apparently 90 minutes of stereotyping. I have never really liked Cohen's stuff, though bits of it are brilliant (some Ali G, his superb voicing of King Julian in Madagascar), and never really understood why (but haven't spent much time thinking about it either). Liddle gives me the reason - much of it is 'laughing at the powerless'. Now as far as I am concerned anything, literally anything can be the object of humour (which doesn't mean that I find everything funny) but the underlying theme of a lot of Cohen's work seems to be sneering at people less privileged than him. He thinks it's satire, and I am sure there are laughs to be found in all his work, but it isn't. Chris Morris does satire, try Three Lions for edgy humour about would be suicide bombers from the north.
     
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