1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Old-style Formations

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,681
    Likes Received:
    24,095
    please log in to view this image


    Whilst pondering the best full-back combo question, I looked this up. Before the time of most on here, but can anyone put this line-up into a recognisable modern-day formation?

    Hazell and Langley were full-backs and OG Hunt was a centre-back. Lazarus and Morgan were out-and-out wingers, but where would you classify the others? Keen and Sibley DMs? Marsh number 10 and Allen false 9? Where would Sanderson fit?

    How could this possibly have worked?
     
    #1
  2. QPRski

    QPRski Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2013
    Messages:
    5,834
    Likes Received:
    4,762
    I remember being taught this as the "football formation" whilst at junior school (in Kensal Rise).
    I have no idea how it worked, but it is the basis of the first team 1-11 numbering system:

    ----------------- 1 ----------------
    --------3---------------2----------
    ------6 ---------5 ---------4-----
    --11 ----10----9 ----8 ------7--

    It would be great to see how that formation and team played and adapted in reality.
     
    #2
    Taffvalerowdy likes this.
  3. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    36,051
    Likes Received:
    19,651
    I remember playing 2-3-5 when I started playing in a team, aged 8. I really can't remember how it worked, but I suppose it was ok if all the other teams played the same formation.
    I seem to remember that we soon started to play 4-4-2.
     
    #3
    Taffvalerowdy likes this.
  4. TWGWTDT

    TWGWTDT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2014
    Messages:
    2,086
    Likes Received:
    1,046
    When I started playing i was number 8 but you were expected at times to play behind 3 and 2
    At youth level I played against Highbury Arsenal boys who thrashed us by 5 goals and they set up 442 and we learnt what offside was as our number 9 back then was effectively a goal hanger. The game has changed a lot more than formations as I once had a Puma screw in stud sticking out of my shin and only took it out after a bath at home and still have the scar. Steve Jones played back then in our team and went onto be signed for QPR. I failed a medical at Fulham because of my eyes as they wouldn't accept contact lenses and I used to play in glasses
    great memories
     
    #4
  5. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    30,970
    Likes Received:
    29,006
    When I played at school in the early-mid seventies we set up 4-3-3. We were heavily beaten almost every week, but that was because we were ****, I can't blame the formation. I was either a panicky right back, a lazy right winger or an ineffective centre forward. When we played teams like Alperton and Willesden, who had teams consisting of giant West Indians with kids and cars at age 14, it was carnage.

    Was that Steve Jones from the Pistols Dave?
     
    #5
  6. jeffranger

    jeffranger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    9,126
    Likes Received:
    7,316
    It did & they was wonderful to watch week in week out.
     
    #6
  7. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    35,594
    Likes Received:
    28,010
    When I started playing at primary school in the early 60s we lined up 2-3-5, kicked off and all 20 outfield players went for the ball, it was like watching a pack of hounds...
     
    #7
    Taffvalerowdy likes this.
  8. Tramore Ranger

    Tramore Ranger Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,642
    Likes Received:
    8,527
    I'll have to dig out the programme from the semi final against Birmingham because from memory that was the only programme that had some formation on it....the rest of the programmes that season were a single sheet of paper folded in 3 to effectively give 6 pages and the teams were just a list of names......so much more simpler in the 60's.....

    Wasn't Hunt and Sibley the centre halves, Sanderson & Keen the midfield engine room and Allen and Marsh the forwards......I suppose the modern 4231 would be

    Springett
    Hazell, Hunt, Sibley, Langley
    Keen, Sanderson
    Lazarus, Allen, Morgan
    Marsh

    Couldn't honestly see Rod playing the loan striker......
     
    #8
  9. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    35,594
    Likes Received:
    28,010
    Have a look at this from 1953, look at the England team from behind their goal just after kick off and it is a very symmetrical line-up. Didn't do them much good as the Magyars with a portly looking Puskas took us apart...

     
    #9
    QPRski likes this.
  10. Tramore Ranger

    Tramore Ranger Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,642
    Likes Received:
    8,527
    Just for a bit of nostalgia watched the brief highlights on British Pathe News, Mike Keen was described as "Right Half" and Les Allen as "Centre Forward", also looked like 3 at the back so that would make it something like....

    Springett
    Hazell, Sibley, Langley
    Keen , Hunt
    Sanderson, Marsh
    Lazarus, Allen, Morgan
     
    #10

  11. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,681
    Likes Received:
    24,095
    That's probably something like it. I'm sure Hunt was CB though, with Keen and Sibley CDMs in today's parlance. Allen wasn't an out-and-out CF in my recollection - he played in the same Spurs side as Bobby Smith.
     
    #11
  12. TWGWTDT

    TWGWTDT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2014
    Messages:
    2,086
    Likes Received:
    1,046
    No not that one
     
    #12
  13. QPRski

    QPRski Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2013
    Messages:
    5,834
    Likes Received:
    4,762
    You can clearly see that the game has changed. For me it is most noticeable that now much faster with much more "closing down" of the players.

    However, I see that our beloved team sometimes also tends to be "nostalgic" with its defending!
     
    #13

Share This Page