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Probably smokey, especially as Khan hasn't got the best of chins. Don't know what the other bloke is like. Can he punch?
 
Ron said:
Probably smokey, especially as Khan hasn't got the best of chins. Don't know what the other bloke is like. Can he punch?
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Yes he can punch 32 knockouts from 48 fights I think or something like that. He's only young but has had nearly 50 fights as a lot of his early ones were against bums in Mexico but since he's stepped up in class he's beaten some top fighters. Elisandry (probably spelt wrong) Lara, Austin Trout, Miguel Cotto all fell victim to him. And his only defeat was a schooling at the hands of Mayweather which in hindsight probably came two years too soon. I give Khan credit for having the balls to take this fight but he's well out of his depth here. Khan struggles against people with any power and people who can box well and put him under pressure. Canelo has both these things plus the weight and size advantage. Very risky fight for Khan to take especially given his other options like a rematch with Garcia, for the WBC welterweight belt or a huge domestic scrap at Wembley with Kell Brook for the IBF title
 
smokethedeadbadger said:
So its been confirmed that Amir Khan will move up two weight classes to 155lbs and fight Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez on the 7th May in Las Vegas. Very very risky fight for Khan to be taking surely Canelo will be too big and strong for him
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Canelo by stoppage for me.

Khan will have to be perfect to beat this guy. He isn't.
 
TopClass said:
Canelo by stoppage for me.

Khan will have to be perfect to beat this guy. He isn't.
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I agree mate. He'll get caught and Canelo will put pressure on and Khan has no crisis management whatsoever in his arsenal, he won't run or hold and he'll get wiped out. I've always been frustrated throughout Khan's career by his lack of discipline in the ring. Its improved slightly under Virgil Hunter who is a defensive trainer anyway but Khan's opponents haven't exactly been of the strongest calibre since hooking up with Hunter
 
smokethedeadbadger said:
Yes he can punch 32 knockouts from 48 fights I think or something like that. He's only young but has had nearly 50 fights as a lot of his early ones were against bums in Mexico but since he's stepped up in class he's beaten some top fighters. Elisandry (probably spelt wrong) Lara, Austin Trout, Miguel Cotto all fell victim to him. And his only defeat was a schooling at the hands of Mayweather which in hindsight probably came two years too soon. I give Khan credit for having the balls to take this fight but he's well out of his depth here. Khan struggles against people with any power and people who can box well and put him under pressure. Canelo has both these things plus the weight and size advantage. Very risky fight for Khan to take especially given his other options like a rematch with Garcia, for the WBC welterweight belt or a huge domestic scrap at Wembley with Kell Brook for the IBF title
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Agreed, bold indeed. My head says Canelo to stop him from round 7 onwards.

BUT- just piecing together the backdrop of this, there is an intriguing underbelly to this choice...


If he pulls it off fair enough like, but I get the impression this guy is doing it for Mayweather. If he could somehow out point Canelo without getting knocked out, he is suddenly a natural welterweight with a middleweight WBC Belt. One last £100million for Mayweather, and one more WBC title at one more weight class. And 50-0.

Does this suddenly begin to make sense?
 
I'm personally a big fan of Amir Khan, his fights are generally exciting to watch and he seems a sound lad. He's extremely talented but he's vulnerable. In racing parlance I'd liken him to your typical Henderson hurdler like My Tent or Granduoet. He's flashy and fools everyone into thinking he's a total superstar until he meets something with the minerals to get him at it, and ultimately he'll get found out. That time is highly likely to be now.

In saying that I've just seen Ladbrokes price it up, Khan 12/5 Alvarez 1/3. Now that does seem slightly insulting to Khan, clearly Ladbrokes feel jumping up 2 weight classes will be too much. Alvarez of course was well touted against Floyd Maywaether, and plenty fancied the Mexican, before ultimately finding him the Champ too good (like everyone has).

Clearly Khans up against it (physically as much as anything) but if I was betting now on it (I'm not) I do think 12/5 does underestimate his chances especially if he's not caught early. I'd hope Amir could use his exceptional speed later on to catch the Mexican. Intriguing fight, but it's possibly not the certainty some think. Brave fight to take on, but then they said that about Fury going to Germany!
 
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It looks as though the Alvarez - Khan fight will be at catch weights, 155 pounds. Some people are suggesting that the reason the Brook - Khan fight didn't get off the ground was due to weight problems that Khan might be having at welter. Whether that's a reason for the jump to Middleweight is right, is beyond me.

In his last fight, against Chris Algieri, Khan came in at 147.5, so the move up is not as bad as it seems on paper. But what has to be remembered is that Khan first started to hit his straps as a Lightweight when he won the Commonwealth Title at 134 and would go on to win the WBA World Title in that division. It's hard to imagine that at 155 that he'll re-hydrate at too much more than that, but you can bet your bottom dollar that Alvarez will balloon out to around 170 after the 155 weigh in.

Khan is much faster of foot and hand than Alvarez, but he really doesn't hit all that hard. But for the life of me, I can't see how he can keep Canelo off him for 12 rounds. I have to give him credit for being one feisty little rooster though. He'll be there to give it a red hot go.

As for the thought that because Fury did what most thought was the impossible, that Khan can too, well to a degree I agree. But for me, Fury's chances were much greater than Khans. Fury is a past master at the spoiling game. Khan is going to duck and weave like never before if he's to win or survive through to the twelfth. Fury is a different kettle of fish. He spoils better than a fly blown piece of meat in the sun.
 
I agree Cyc. This is a different kettle of fish. I always thought that if anyone could beat Klitschko it would be Fury. Height, weight and reach advantage, quick hands, big punch. Klitschko had never been at such a disadvantage.. So there was no big surprise there. The way he went about it was more of a surprise though.

Khan has none of those advantages. Has no chance
 
Mayweather v Khan 155lb stIpulaion.
WBC Middleweight Title

Wembley Stadium.



100,000 tickets sold at avg price £150

That's the first 15 million made before a PPV has even been sold.

£49.99 Sky Box Office -Minimum £1million customers.

$99 USA. Multimillions of customers.



Is this where this road could lead?


Thought I'd get speculating <laugh>
 
Probably the biggest news in boxing at the moment is not about the fantastic bouts on the horizon, but about whether a blossoming career might be rapidly coming to a close. Is Tyson Fury about to call it quits? He's not set foot back in the ring since the day he took the belts from Klitschko. He's said that he's still pretty fit but is having trouble getting started again. The return fight is rapidly moving towards the mid to late year now as the Klitschko camp await the news from the Fury team. When approached by the media, Peter Fury didn't have an answer when quizzed on Tyson's future. He stated. “Whatever Tyson wants to do is ok with me and I will support him no matter if he boxed on or quit. I would rather Tyson quit the sport than fight on for the money." He told World Boxing News. “He's achieved a dream, but to maintain that dream sacrifice always has to be made - just like how he achieved that dream in the first place.”

Tyson Fury has at times in the past, appeared to show a tendency to swing from lofty highs to deep lows. He seems a troubled man. He's already reached the top of the mountain. And as he said, despite whatever he does from now on, he'll always be remembered for what he did against Klitschko in 2015. It becomes pretty easy to believe that we might not see too much more of the man. I hope we do get to see him fight Klitschko and Wilder, but all of a sudden, I'm feeling a little saddened by the thought that a troubled mind might just draw down the curtain on a wonderful entertainer and boxer. If he does pull on the gloves again, it might be in our best interest to take as much joy from his performance as is possible, because his blazing star might might not burn for too much longer.
 
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Wouldn't surprise me if he quit. He was well and truly psyched up for the Klitschko fight but maybe it's now an anti climax and it's causing some depression. I wonder if he can get that psyched up again. It's in the balance I reckon and it's a case of waiting to see what happens. Personally, I'd love to see him back provided he can be in the state of mind and fitness as he was for the Klitschko fight. If he can't reproduce that, I'd rather he retired and enjoyed his fame and wealth with his family.
 
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