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He's an astrophysicist who's had no peer reviewed papers published on the climate or global warming.

His opinion is just that, an opinion.

So you attack the guy who manages the UAH satellite records used for weather prediction and forecasts, and who set up all of the temperature gathering systems for NASA. And completely avoid even discussing what he says


You've been spouting garbage for months, and "he" is not qualified.
}Did you read his argument?

Not educated enough to debate it? Copy and paste even?

Had he said NASA is right, you wouldn't have even checked his qualifications

Attenborough a biologist and activist who knows nothing about climate science, and you believe him.
Hypocrisy..

Did you cherry pick this post to reply to? Ignored the increasing ice of the last 5 6 years in Jan. In fact you ignore any data that makes a mockery of your ignorant religious beliefs.

 

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Tian Tian has a message for you from DC

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No more snow, milder winters [HASHTAG]#globalwarming[/HASHTAG]

 

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Despite all freezing cold in history has always been associated with cold weather, since forever.
Some blame Global warming, including Michael Mann the fraud.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/01/22/3741287/climate-science-blizzards/
The Climate Science Behind Extreme Blizzards Like Jonas

^^ contradicts the IPCC. You freaks need to make up your minds
Are you going to throw your lot in with this clown? Are you going to try claim global warming causes freezing cold @Tobes

 

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IPCC

Warmer earth means more ice? after claiming it meant no ice?. Jan regrowth of Ice record.

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Cold apparently means hot, increasing ice, means global warming.

All because of data twice removed from measurements by government funded science

This was ignored, no copy paste available/

 

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IPCC Third Assessment Report


Now Mann the proven hockeystick statistical fraud is saying global warming is causing freezing cold.

Wheel of Climate Change, any outcome is proof

Ignored..

 

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Seeing as Tobes and Astro like skeptical science.
https://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice.htm

Climate Myth...
Antarctica is gaining ice
"[Ice] is expanding in much of Antarctica, contrary to the widespread public belief that global warming is melting the continental ice cap.


Given this has been utterly debunked by the IPCC and NASA. Do you see why you cant use Skeptical science? It's a clima religion site, militant illogical activism, or more accurately, leftist authoritarianism.

Destruction of the Skeptical science source, ignored

 

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Here is GAT and predictions

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Warming is below the lowest prediction (draconian cuts) meaning this is the forecast for no increase in emissions, meaning, CO2 is not driving temperature according to NASA and the IPCC.

This is according to the the NASA you so much believe is right.

So how does one tackle this cognitive dissonance?

GAT is nothing to do with weather and climate, it is a residue, if you are too stupid to understand why it is a residue I will explain it.

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As seen here, even the grossly adjusted temperature is below ALL LOWEST predictions, meaning, they are all wrong btw
I posted this before recently and the usual suspects totally ignored it

evidence temperature is not driven by CO2 (proof models are useless), ignored

 

[Tobes]

So you attack the guy who manages the UAH satellite records used for weather prediction and forecasts, and who set up all of the temperature gathering systems for NASA. And completely avoid even discussing what he says


You've been spouting garbage for months, and "he" is not qualified.
}Did you read his argument?

Not educated enough to debate it? Copy and paste even?

Had he said NASA is right, you wouldn't have even checked his qualifications

Attenborough a biologist and activist who knows nothing about climate science, and you believe him.
Hypocrisy..

Did you cherry pick this post to reply to? Ignored the increasing ice of the last 5 6 years in Jan. In fact you ignore any data that makes a mockery of your ignorant religious beliefs.

Whitehouse forms part of the GWPF organisation. Formed by Lawson.

An organisation that is funded solely by donation and refuses to publish who those funders are....

They've previously lobbied for Britain to resist signing up for the World CO2 targets and have actively backed and promoted fracking as a ****ing great idea for this country.

Can you please post the detail of the claim that Whitehouse set up all of the temperature data systems for NASA please.

I never backed Attenborough you dolt, all the man has said is what the consensus of the scientific community believe. He's made no claims of being an expert. You just make **** up about what's been said, the dope has probably ****ed your memory in fairness like.

Any chance of an answer over the temperature increase in Finland in 2014 btw? Or can't you find a cut and paste answer to that particular question on your crank denier sites?

 

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Whitehouse forms part of the GWPF organisation. Formed by Lawson.

An organisation that is funded solely by donation and refuses to publish who those funders are....

They've previously lobbied for Britain to resist signing up for the World CO2 targets and have actively backed and promoted fracking as a ****ing great idea for this country.

Can you please post the detail of the claim that Whitehouse set up all of the temperature data systems for NASA please.

I never backed Attenborough you dolt, all the man has said is what the consensus of the scientific community believe. He's made no claims of being an expert. You just make **** up about what's been said, the dope has probably ****ed your memory in fairness like.

Any chance of an answer over the temperature increase in Finland in 2014 btw? Or can't you find a cut and paste answer to that particular question on your crank denier sites?

You dont see your ******ation do you/ you avoid discussing something, and attack the messenger..

Education fail if ever


back up what you say stop posting other stuff and talking like it is you, what's your source. When I talk of science I provide sources to back up what I say

why do you avoid the points brought up by people and talk about them personally? repeatedly, is that a way of avoiding a discussion you are clueless about..

 

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It seems you got your "argument" from the most untrustworthy source on climate change, the Guardian?



using the media's character assassinations to argue science and climate debate

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Patrick Moore is a member of the GWPF.. the founder of green peace like.

Turned Oil shill?

Also @Tobes when alarmist scientists are asked to disclose funding, they cite Academic Freedom, and even wrote an open letter after several pro warming researchers were asked for funding. NOAA have refused a legal request for their emails on the no pause paper.

You also ignored my posts about the EPA funding climate papers about the EPA

Government demand global warming is real and fund 75% of science.

Not a conflict of interest right?

such a one sided bigot.. filter bubble strikes again.

what a ******. Embarrassment to humanity

 

[Tobes]

You dont see your ******ation do you/ you avoid discussing something, and attack the messenger..

Education fail if ever


back up what you say stop posting other stuff and talking like it is you, what's your source. When I talk of science I provide sources to back up what I say

why do you avoid the points brought up by people and talk about them personally? repeatedly, is that a way of avoiding a discussion you are clueless about..

I'm merely pointing out that the GWPF are an organisation formed by a raging Thatcherite Tory, who have actively fought against CO2 reduction targets for industry whilst at the same time lauding the idea of fracking.

A sceptic might conclude that their funders are likely to be companies who have an interest in those areas.....

http://www.theguardian.com/environm...012/mar/06/climate-change-sceptic-lawson-coal

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Whitehouse isn't a climatologist he's a blogger in the subject, and one who's the voice piece for the above outfit.

Any chance of backing up those claims that he created NASA's temperature data systems btw?

 

[Tobes]

Patrick Moore is a member of the GWPF.. the founder of green peace like.

Turned Oil shill?

Also @Tobes when alarmist scientists are asked to disclose funding, they cite Academic Freedom, and even wrote an open letter after several pro warming researchers were asked for funding. NOAA have refused a legal request for their emails on the no pause paper.

You also ignored my posts about the EPA funding climate papers about the EPA

Government demand global warming is real and fund 75% of science.

Not a conflict of interest right?

such a one sided bigot.. filter bubble strikes again.

what a ******. Embarrassment to humanity

Moore is another self serving ****ing liar

He applied to join a Greenpeace demo...here's the letter in which he did so.


http://www.desmogblog.com/2014/07/12/greenpeace-co-founder-patrick-moore-not-co-founder-all


How can you apply to join an organisation that you have claimed you founded? He's a ****ing fraud you dolt

But a stupid **** like you accepts this supposed 'fact' without question and failed to even check as to its authenticity.

 

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I'm merely pointing out that the GWPF are an organisation formed by a raging Thatcherite Tory, who have actively fought against CO2 reduction targets for industry whilst at the same time lauding the idea of fracking.

A sceptic might conclude that their funders are likely to be companies who have an interest in those areas.....

http://www.theguardian.com/environm...012/mar/06/climate-change-sceptic-lawson-coal

[HASHTAG]#oops[/HASHTAG]

Whitehouse isn't a climatologist he's a blogger in the subject, and one who's the voice piece for the above outfit.

Any chance of backing up those claims that he created NASA's temperature data systems btw?

You are copy pasting from the guardian, you ****wit, stop pretending you know ****

So, apart from using the Guardian for science, and character assassinations. You then refuse to read the argument put forward dismissing it out of hand without evne looking at it, then ask me to provide you with something.

Do you know what UAH is? I already told you. Roy Spencer is the UAH guy, it's his baby, your ignorance is astounding, ignorance is not lack of knowledge it is a refusal to learn knowledge UAH is a NOAA data set you ultimate clown, and an IPCC one
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/msu/

Seeing as you have no clue about this subject you try make it one of character, which ironic given your character Lazy **** with no job and an internet connection, who is a compulsive liar, [HASHTAG]#character[/HASHTAG]

Always trying to switch to what suits your brain dead copy and pasting, ignoring a whole raft of posts that question your beliefs and NASA's science.
[HASHTAG]#filterbubble[/HASHTAG]

 

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So why do you come to this thread Tobes? It's certainly nothing to do with science or global warming, that's a fact.

I get the feeling you and your girlfriends are just intent on wrecking any debate on this thread

 

[Tobes]

You are copy pasting from the guardian, you ****wit, stop pretending you know ****

So, apart from using the Guardian for science, and character assassinations. You then refuse to read the argument put forward dismissing it out of hand without evne looking at it, then ask me to provide you with something.

Do you know what UAH is? I already told you. Roy Spencer is the UAH guy, it's his baby, your ignorance is astounding, ignorance is not lack of knowledge it is a refusal to learn knowledge UAH is a NOAA data set you ultimate clown, and an IPCC one
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/msu/

Seeing as you have no clue about this subject you try make it one of character, which ironic given your character Lazy **** with no job and an internet connection, who is a compulsive liar, [HASHTAG]#character[/HASHTAG]

Always trying to switch to what suits your brain dead copy and pasting, ignoring a whole raft of posts that question your beliefs and NASA's science.

You trying to call foul on c&p is ****ing hilarious you thick hypocritcal ****

FYI I posted the link to an article I didn't cut and paste any text as I'm on my iPad

Are you arguing with the obvious links between fossil fuels and Lawsons organisation then? Countering anything?

Nah just trying to divert away from it, as per.

 

[Tobes]

So why do you come to this thread Tobes? It's certainly nothing to do with science or global warming, that's a fact.

I get the feeling you and your girlfriends are just intent on wrecking any debate on this thread

You're not here for any form of debate, you just seek validation of your fragile ego and your intellectual inferiority complex

 

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The one objective person of late to read through pointed out what your arguments are.. nonsense that always lead to the same ****e.

Now every source I use is "funded by oil"

In other words no matter what, avoid the facts avoid the evidence avoid discussing the subject. If the info is NASA you ignore it, if it is empirical data, you ignore it.

it's called ignorance. Sad thing is, you have no clue what the IPCC claim, none whatsoever, never read a report, all you have done is 3 minute link it, Guardian and Skeptical science, oh and as proof China is not pumping out more CO2 to 2030 you gave me a green peace forecast of what "they think".



You should not come here, because you are clueless. Though what I find amazing is your ability to lie to yourself.

^this kind of too and fro is what you actually want, not scientific debate, or climate debate.,

You repeatedly use character attacks, conspiracy claims and refuse to read anything that doesn't agree with you

Imagine science was like that, refused to see anything other than what it believed. Now you'll flip my statements as you always do and say that is me, it being difficult to articulate your own, paste some?

 

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You're not here for any form of debate, you just seek validation of your fragile ego and your intellectual inferiority complex

You are just repeating what I said to you, a;most word for word, how original

PJ likes to do that too.

You have no clue and yet come here to troll. Proof is in the pudding, I believe you admitted you are clueless.

Now you pretend to laugh, sure sign of meltdown

 

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You trying to call foul on c&p is ****ing hilarious you thick hypocritcal ****

FYI I posted the link to an article I didn't cut and paste any text as I'm on my iPad

Are you arguing with the obvious links between fossil fuels and Lawsons organisation then? Countering anything?

Nah just trying to divert away from it, as per.

So Spencer is a denier eh.. iPad excuses, how can you afford an ipad on the dole?

The lnk was to NOAA's page for UAH data, and RSS btw

So as usual, wrong wrong wrong thanks to self assured ignorance. Roy is a denier to provides a data set for NOAA and all the hurricane forecasting centres, they use RSS and UAH to forecast. AND the IPCC

You are an idiot

A data set of much importance you credit to a denier.. See, you actually have no clue, you cant wing this with links and the guardian