Manc Serial Killer?

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Bollocks. Lots of crimes go unreported. People attacked at a canalside would possibly be involved in something they didn't want to be made public (crime, homosexual liaisons), so any survivors wouldn't necessarily want to tell the tale.

Fair point, they may not have wanted to report it at the time. But with all the rumours of a potential serial killer on the loose, don't you think there contiounse would have got the better of them by now.

28 is a big number to have killed by just pushing them in, so there are bound to be loads of survivors out there, so surely atleast 1 of them would have come forward.

You also don't have to be up to no good to be down by the canals, it's a shortcut home for alot of people. There isn't a significant number of homosexuals among the 28 to suggest that they are being specifically targeted. There are a lot more straight guys.
 
Fair point, they may not have wanted to report it at the time. But with all the rumours of a potential serial killer on the loose, don't you think there contiounse would have got the better of them by now.

28 is a big number to have killed by just pushing them in, so there are bound to be loads of survivors out there, so surely atleast 1 of them would have come forward.

You also don't have to be up to no good to be down by the canals, it's a shortcut home for alot of people. There isn't a significant number of homosexuals among the 28 to suggest that they are being specifically targeted. There are a lot more straight guys.

Just because they're reported as being straight doesn't mean that some were not induigling in homosexual activity by the canal. There;'s a few married guys on here who like to visit Coocaddens for example...
 
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Fair point, they may not have wanted to report it at the time. But with all the rumours of a potential serial killer on the loose, don't you think there contiounse would have got the better of them by now.

28 is a big number to have killed by just pushing them in, so there are bound to be loads of survivors out there, so surely atleast 1 of them would have come forward.

You also don't have to be up to no good to be down by the canals, it's a shortcut home for alot of people. There isn't a significant number of homosexuals among the 28 to suggest that they are being specifically targeted. There are a lot more straight guys.
Not necessarily. If they're married with kids, they might prefer to keep quiet.

They may not have been just pushed in. The one killed in 2004 had injuries consistent with an assault, and I'm sure he's not the only one.

There's plenty of closet gays out there, and they are more likely to use the seclusion of a tow path to indulge in a little bum fun.
 
Not necessarily. If they're married with kids, they might prefer to keep quiet.

They may not have been just pushed in. The one killed in 2004 had injuries consistent with an assault, and I'm sure he's not the only one.

There's plenty of closet gays out there, and they are more likely to use the seclusion of a tow path to indulge in a little bum fun.
Quite the expert eh ?
 
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Not necessarily. If they're married with kids, they might prefer to keep quiet.

They may not have been just pushed in. The one killed in 2004 had injuries consistent with an assault, and I'm sure he's not the only one.

There's plenty of closet gays out there, and they are more likely to use the seclusion of a tow path to indulge in a little bum fun.

Most of them where very young, so doubt they'd be married with kids.

I'm not saying either that none of the deaths are suspicious, I think probably a couple of them where suspicious and something untoward happened to the victims. However I just see them as individual cases, that arent the actions of the same offender.

This 'serial killer' would have to be a criminal mastermind to have executed 28 perfect murders without so much of a trace of evidence. And the type of person that would carry out these sort of crimes wouldn't usually be of high intelligence.

What do you reckon, do you honestly think the same person has been responsible for most of the deaths?
 
Most of them where very young, so doubt they'd be married with kids.

I'm not saying either that none of the deaths are suspicious, I think probably a couple of them where suspicious and something untoward happened to the victims. However I just see them as individual cases, that arent the actions of the same offender.

This 'serial killer' would have to be a criminal mastermind to have executed 28 perfect murders without so much of a trace of evidence. And the type of person that would carry out these sort of crimes wouldn't usually be of high intelligence.

What do you reckon, do you honestly think the same person has been responsible for most of the deaths?
I think 5 would pushes would be enough .
Perhaps the council should make it harder for clumsy people to not fall in.
There are plenty of canals in other big cities that don't have the volume of accidental drownings .
A fence maybe ?
 
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I think 5 would pushes would be enough .
Perhaps the council should make it harder for clumsy people to not fall in.
There are plenty of canals in other big cities that don't have the volume of accidental drownings .
A fence maybe ?

Dredge the canal, brick it up and then make Manchester city council pay reparations to Liverpool for all the money they stole over the time the canal has been in operation.
 
Most of them where very young, so doubt they'd be married with kids.

I'm not saying either that none of the deaths are suspicious, I think probably a couple of them where suspicious and something untoward happened to the victims. However I just see them as individual cases, that arent the actions of the same offender.

This 'serial killer' would have to be a criminal mastermind to have executed 28 perfect murders without so much of a trace of evidence. And the type of person that would carry out these sort of crimes wouldn't usually be of high intelligence.

What do you reckon, do you honestly think the same person has been responsible for most of the deaths?
They've been young, but old enough to have wives/girlfriends/children.

Psychopaths are often of above-average intelligence.

I honestly don't know. But there's definitely something "not right" about the whole affair.
 
They've been young, but old enough to have wives/girlfriends/children.

Psychopaths are often of above-average intelligence.

I honestly don't know. But there's definitely something "not right" about the whole affair.
It would make a good book Jip.
Just saying .:emoticon-0126-nerd:
 
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They've been young, but old enough to have wives/girlfriends/children.

Psychopaths are often of above-average intelligence.

I honestly don't know. But there's definitely something "not right" about the whole affair.

Agree that looking at the number of deaths would lead you to believe that there's something not quite right about the whole thing.

However I think the high number of deaths is more a case of safety around the canals not being up to standard, rather than something more sinister.

There just isn't enough evidence, in fact there isn't any evidence that there's a serial killer on the loose.

People have this tendency to jump to the worst case scenario, and I think that is what is happening here :biggrin:
 
Agree that looking at the number of deaths would lead you to believe that there's something not quite right about the whole thing.

However I think the high number of deaths is more a case of safety around the canals not being up to standard, rather than something more sinister.

There just isn't enough evidence, in fact there isn't any evidence that there's a serial killer on the loose.

People have this tendency to jump to the worst case scenario, and I think that is what is happening here :biggrin:

Did you even read the article?
 
I watched the programme Tobes, and I don't see any concrete evidence pointing to a serial killer. Just a lot of assumptions being made.

An expert criminologist has joined grieving families in believing a serial killer who drowns his victims might be behind the deaths of dozens of people found in Manchester's rivers.

An astonishing 85 bodies - mostly men - have been pulled from the city's waterways in the last seven years.

The cause behind the majority of the deaths are believed to have been established, but 28 are still classified as 'unexplained'.

I don't watch TV like that, and I'm not a conspiracy person or believe the world is full of serial killers, but that's still a bit ****ed. I know northerners can't handle their booze, but why would one of the dudes' parents have heard him screaming on the phone?
 
Awe ffs. Noo I'll need to find somewhere else to dispose of the bodies.

Never get a minute me.
 
An expert criminologist has joined grieving families in believing a serial killer who drowns his victims might be behind the deaths of dozens of people found in Manchester's rivers.

An astonishing 85 bodies - mostly men - have been pulled from the city's waterways in the last seven years.

The cause behind the majority of the deaths are believed to have been established, but 28 are still classified as 'unexplained'.

I don't watch TV like that, and I'm not a conspiracy person or believe the world is full of serial killers, but that's still a bit ****ed. I know northerners can't handle their booze, but why would one of the dudes' parents have heard him screaming on the phone?
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An expert criminologist has joined grieving families in believing a serial killer who drowns his victims might be behind the deaths of dozens of people found in Manchester's rivers.

An astonishing 85 bodies - mostly men - have been pulled from the city's waterways in the last seven years.

The cause behind the majority of the deaths are believed to have been established, but 28 are still classified as 'unexplained'.

I don't watch TV like that, and I'm not a conspiracy person or believe the world is full of serial killers, but that's still a bit ****ed. I know northerners can't handle their booze, but why would one of the dudes' parents have heard him screaming on the phone?

I haven't ruled it out that some of the deaths might have been suspicious, in fact I think a few of them probably where. But I think these where individual incidents, not the work of a serial killer. It's pretty normal for a big city to have its fair share of murders.

Maybe the lad screaming on the phone was the victim of an attack, who knows. Maybe he got into a dispute with someone and they attacked him. But to say that is linked to the deaths of another 27 people, where there was no evidence of an attack is somewhat far fetched.