I think they took a very similar scatter gun approach to it as spurs did. i think they wanted some CL experience and bought both can and Markovic as young players for it. However.... It is indeed very poor squad management. Klopp started at the bottom in having 40 young layers released. his view is we've too many at the outset to focus on I would love to know if klopp decided to keep linders at the club or was asked to as well. They seem to get along pretty well now. I wonder if there was a big element of early choices made by getting opinions out of him and if inglethorpe also has an ear of klopp. For me we are still very unbalanced Our europa squad is a prime example. we were only allowed 21 players Mignolet, Bogdan, Clyne, Gomez, Toure, Lovren, Moreno, Sakho, Skrtel, Lucas, Henderson, Milner, Can, Allen, Coutinho, Lallana, Firmino, Origi, Ings, Sturridge, Benteke this is because in a 25-man squad at least eight of those players must be homegrown. However at least four of those eight players must have been trained at the club meaning they’ve spent three years with us before they turn 21. We could not ful fill those criteria so we binned ilori, teixteria and markovic. If you look at the list U21 players can go on a B list so thats where ibe and the other young lads come in. Our 21 man squad have gomez in it who was u21.. origi who is u21. to make the B list you must have been both born after Jan. 1, 1994, and have had an uninterrupted two-year spell with the club at some point since the age of 15, neither origi nor can meet these. so: The only guy we have to meet those crtieria who is over 21 is flanagan who was not going to play. We could not make another 3 to get the full 25 man squad. This means that there IS a value to players like Smith and Randall at full back as they can fill out a european squad in future. We have to coach them to be better players. In future time ibe will meet the HG requirements Hwever buying english is actually no good under these rules. You can have 4 english players max that you buy in your team and 4 more that can be any nationality but have to train for 3 years here. U21s you buy like markovic are no good unless you have them at the club for 2 years. you can have 17 foreign players then.. So: HG eventually: Gomez (18-21 = 3 years) Ibe: (since age 15.) Flanagan (easy) smith or randall (again easy) you can add anyone of the young lads at the club like rossiter etc eventually. HG english purchases: Milner, clyne, henderso, sturridge. The reality for LFC then is the rules in the prem are actually going to be harsher. right now about the same rules exist in the prem 8 players who must be trained for 3 years before age 21. but dyke wants that to go to 12 AND move the age back to 18 so you have to be signed up at 15. ergo for a foriegn kid coming over you cannot be Hg unless you come at 15. Therefore we have to be very watchful of this. theres zero point flooding the academy with young foreign boys unless they really can be good or meet the criteria at least. Klopp has said cull it to 200 which is across all ages. Yes we need balance... but we need to ensure we have the numbers to make up the squads properly and be able to challenge.
#onlygermanclub its the biggest sotry on the plant for german football any time anything related to bayern. kind of like marca and real.. you have to ask... whos agenda are they reporting... it can be the club pushing, the players agent or just plain idle speculation.
for 45million too. you go buy out of a club doing well but way below the level oyu are trying to build a squad for and spend what would get you just about half the players playing CL in europe and then wonder why. I think he was focused on english league and had no idea what was needed for CL. I think his first years signings of borini and allen and wanting dempsey showed he hadn't really an idea of what was needed to get to the top of the prem either. The only player klopp bought that was really vtial to his best season was sturridge. coutinho was even on the bench. I don't even know if he signed him or a committee did. we bought mingolet but he was up and down Johnson played ok in 2013/14 skertl... lots of ogs and lost of goals scored and just attacking the ball Agger v sahko v toure. all got games, it was agger flanagan at lb.. cissohko was useless, enriuq was not his gerrard henderson allen was his buy Sterling Suarez Sturridge was his buy It just shows that he gave a couple of kids a go but had 6/7 of the team handed to him and most importantly suarez. I think personally the thing about klopp is irrespective of anything esle he should know having played bayern what it takes to beat to top side and he should know what it takes to be good enough for CL... rodgers did not, but his biggest failing is he had an idea but he didn't live the idea. he didn't fully commit to it in the end. he bottled it and by the end his team was playing a game totally alien to the grand original vision. Klopp has lived his vision and proved it. That doesn't say he can make it happen here. but everything about him says proven. everything about rodgers said starting out. Rodgers will have a big task getting another big job in the prem. I think someone will go for him like everton but we've seen with mark hughes... getting back to the big clubs will take some doing.
Fair point - Rodgers wasn't used to European football so I understand his inexperience when it came to squad management. But he bombed out of EL in first season, embarrassed us in CL and then EL again that same season. Then started poorly again this season. He never learnt from his mistakes which was the biggest issue. As you say, Klopp has great experience, in particular: awaking a sleeping giant Creating an atmosphere Finding hidden gems in transfer market Buying on a budget Competing at the top of the league Competing with the best Competing in Europe Imagine playing under him. You hang off his every word because you know the guy know his stuff.
At the moment, Coutinho and Firmino are the number 10's and they desperately need a winger or wide man next to them to stretch the pitch. Firmino is best as a number 10, don't want him up front that often. Not a natural striker.
which is what I have said. I like firmino further up like he played for brazil. I don't like what he's done out wide. it doesn't suit him. Actually reminds me a little of luis garcia., very frustrating in how much he loses the ball in areas he just should not, but he's got a strike on him. Lallan is i don't know what. another who want to play no 10 though...
Firmino needs to be central. Coutinho will probably be played out wide which isn't his best position. And a winger to compliment them. Hopefully Klopp gets the right man. Lallana as a back up option is OK.
Liverpool have also been linked to two wingers this morning, with one source claiming the Reds are looking to secure a deal for Leverkusen wide-man Karim Bellarabi. The German international operates on the right of midfield and has scored two goals in 15 Bundesliga appearances this season. The 25-year-old has previously been linked to Liverpool, with the Daily Star claiming he was on his way almost two years ago. Finally, the Express has reported that Liverpool are set to smash their record transfer fee with an audacious £37m move for Borussia Monchengladach star Granit Xhaka. The sum would eclipse the £35m the Reds paid for Andy Carroll in 2011, and the Swiss international would bring creative class to the midfield. Although the 23-year-old would bring quality, he has a short fuse - resulting in his being handed three red cards already this season. - If the press are right we will sign every player in Germany.
Newcastle fans were saying they had been linked with move for Xhaka but think the money involved was far lower than that! Aubergine said he has no intention to go to Arsenal after the link of bid for him
Throw in Ter Stegan for £12m and Wanyama for £25m and got yourself s pretty good spin to a team there.
