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  1. elnino37

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    http://www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/chris-ramsey-appointed-technical-director-2885015.aspx

    Ramsey to head up new role within QPR Academy

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    • Chris Ramsey appointed Technical Director at QPR
    • Ramsey will be responsible for variety of roles within coaching and player-development
    CHRIS Ramsey has been appointed Technical Director at QPR.

    Ramsey will be responsible for a variety of roles relating to coaching and player development.

    The 53 year-old will oversee all aspects of coaching and coach education within the Academy, and be responsible for developing and implementing player development strategies.

    He will also oversee the integration between the Academy, Development Squad and First Team, as well as focusing on the monitoring and reporting of players on loan to other clubs.

    Ramsey will also develop and implement the scouting strategy to include the necessary processes and procedures to acquire players, and develop and implement club partnership programmes at both domestic and international level to facilitate greater market accessibility, exchange of best practice, and development / exit opportunities for players.

    Director of Football, Les Ferdinand, explained why Ramsey – who was relinquished of his First Team duties in early November – is the ideal candidate for the role, commenting: “Whilst we were disappointed things didn’t work out with Chris at First Team level earlier in the season, we were determined to retain his services at QPR.

    “As such, we actually put a clause in his contract which allowed us to retain Chris’s services in a player-development role should things not work out for him as Head Coach.

    “Chris knows Academy football inside-out and having put the building blocks in place for a lot of the good restructuring work that’s been done here over the past 11 months, he can come in and make an instant impact in an environment he has helped build.”
    Read more at http://www.qpr.co.uk/news/article/c...cal-director-2885015.aspx#VVkytOTaeyi5XlwJ.99
     
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  2. Sutfol

    Sutfol Well-Known Member

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    He's probably better in that kind of role but still feels like there has been some personal favouritism in this appointment
     
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    Good news. But until we get Warren Farm built it won't make much of a difference in attracting and develop young talent.
     
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    Good news and was always going to happen. Excellent coach, inexperienced manager.
     
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    terrible news absolute disaster for poor steve gallen
     
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  6. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Could you please list Gallen's achievements for me Ted? 'Loyalty' isn't an achievement by the way. He should be treated with respect, of course.
     
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  7. elnino37

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    I'm with SB on the whole Steve Gallen situation. Yes, he has stuck through the club for the past 18 years, and our youth system has been nothing short of abysmal in that period. As far as i'm concerned, the youth system is a massive problem at the moment, so if the coaching isn't working then rightfully change it. Each youth team coach should be able to produce a player once every 2 or 3 years, otherwise to me they're considered a failure.
     
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    If we'd had a string of players who had been 'poached' while still kids like Sterling, it would be a different matter - then it would be a club wide problem. But we've only had Sterling.
     
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    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I feel it would have been better for CR and the club if they had gone their separate ways. I remain to be convinced these re-marriages work
     
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  10. Sooperhoop

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    Those commenting on Gallen's 'failures' should bear in mind he had sod all talent to work with due to our abysmal scouting and then had Mike Rigg and the rest of Mark Hughes' team to contend with making decisions over his head and basically totally undermining him. Most in that situation would have walked away but he stuck it out and now has been shafted by Ferdinand and 'jobs for the boys'. Sums up everything wrong with our club but not surprising in the least...
     
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    He has been sacked from the position of First Team Coach (if he has been sacked, he's still on the Offish), which he has been since July 1st last year. So Ramsey isn't replacing him, if anything JFH wants someone else in, as is typical with managers.
     
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  12. elnino37

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    If there is "sod all talent" then what's the point in having an academy? Of course he stuck it out, any other club would have got rid of him ages ago! I personally couldn't care less if Gallen is there or not, all he seemed to do was put the cones out for the warm up. He certainly hasn't improved or produced anyone for the first team. The last player to come through (with the exception of Ray Jones) was Richard Paquette, who some 84 non league clubs later is at Hampton & Richmond now.
     
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    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    By the way, we didn't have an Academy, that was closed back when we went through administration. The new Academy was set up thanks to a lot of spadework from Gallen and his co-coaches who were jettisoned in the process, not our finest hour...
     
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    The academy never "closed". It became a centre of excellence, which is essentially a step down from the academies. Don't doubt Gallen put a lot of effort into setting up the academy, but essentially an academy is not judged on results in their football matches. It's judged on how many first team players it produces, and our total of 0 isn't acceptable. The likes of Furlong, Doughty etc all have no chance unless we go down again, so hopefully this change will see us produce a few more first team regulars over the next 5 years or so.
     
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    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    In reverse, I would like the pro-Ramsey brigade to produce a list of his achievements to justify his second Senior position at our club.
     
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    Peter Damage Well-Known Member

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    Firstly are we sure we've even got academy status? If so when did this happen

    I believe for most if not all of the time Gallen was a youth coach we were not academy status so to convince a talent like Sterling to join us is probably the most outstanding achievement of any youth coach in past decade.

    But SB you are looking for an example, of Steve Gallen's. Well here is an absolutely perfect one. Spurs signed Dean Parrett for reported £2m at 15!!!

    If Ramsey was being served up and helping to select players like that at a far more attractive club then it's no wonder there are a few successes but there are also some failures even with a player that Gallen helped mould into one of the top prospects in the country

    Where's he now?

    We talk of wanting people who get the club well there is none more perfect than Steve Gallen.

    Ramsey didn't even have the courtesy to make a comment about his appointment. Must think he's too good for the job or doesn't have any affection for the club after all the abuse he took. Big contrast to Steve Gallen
     
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    I asked first Fingy. But these are players he brought through Spurs youth system:
    Harry Kane, Ryan Mason, Danny Rose, Nabil Bentaleb, Andros Townsend, Tom Carroll, Jake Livermore. And, sadly, Steven Caulker. Oh, and Massimo Luongo.
     
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  18. finglasqpr

    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    Yes.........great achievements at Spurs. How much has he achieved here in however long he has been here? Harry Redknapp also achieved a lot at Spurs including Champions league football. Could he do that at QPR? Could he fu**.

    I want somebody to tell me exactly why Ramsey should still be employed by our club.
     
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    Well, I'll have to answer my question (thank you Damage for having a go) myself then. This is what a bloke who used to work with Gallen thinks. It's very positive.

    http://tonymccool.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/steve-gallen-end-of-era.html

    Ramsey will probably do nothing for QPR, just like everyone else who we pay. He joined us on 1 November 2014 as head of development. By February he was first team coach, sacked 4 November last year - so 12 months.

    I just don't get the 'loyalty' argument, and Ramsey isn't replacing Gallen, Gallen was first team coach. Why should Ramsey be employed by us to oversee player development? Because he has a better record at it than anyone currently at the club. But as I say, he'll probably fail, we aren't set up to succeed.
     
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    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    I didn't answer your question Stan as personally, I'm not interested in talking about Steve Gallen. I am interested in talking about Chris Ramsey. I'm not suggesting Gallen should have the job over Ramsey. I am trying to see why people think Ramsey should be re-employed by the club considering his failures at the club so far. The only justification you can come up with is that he has a better record in this area at a different club that anyone else at QPR. Mark Hughes and Harry Redknapp had decent records at previous clubs and both failed to achieve what the club expected of them. Ramsey has failed in his roles at the club to date. Why should that change?
     
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