Match Day Thread UTD v Taffs

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UnitedinRed said:
There's actually quite a fee who have spent more, and some did so 15 years ago.....

Ranieri
Redknapp
Pardew (a bit less, but at Newcastle... Wow)
Rafa
Rodgers
Hughes
AVB (bit less at individual clubs, significantly more combined)


Bar AVB that's all at one club, not a combination of clubs.

Ranieri spent so much to win nothing with Chelsea, as did Redknapp at Spurs.

Surprised at some but the stand out two are the RS clowns, who spent over half a billion between them and their team ended up significantly worse, ending their final seasons in midtable. Legends.
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What is with this bullshit list? Hughes? AVB? Pardew?

Is this combined clubs across their careers? How is that relevant to what LVG has failed to achieve at United?

Just for the record, LVG has won as many PL titles as all of your very peculiarly constructed list!
 
Treble said:
Pretty sure Ranieri also only had 1 season with Chelsea with the £200m he spent, but it's nice to spin the facts to suit an argument. Typical pigheadedness.

It's so obvious to anyone that with the players we bought we were expected to challenge for the title this season. I can easily find quotes of UIR saying the same before the season... if I wanted. Now he's re-writing history when things don't fit. It's the usual "make it up as you go along" bollox, most should expect from him <ok>
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Ranieri's spend is here - http://www.transferleague.co.uk/chelsea/english-football-teams/chelsea-transfers

No idea what point the lad's trying to make by fabricating stuff. Maybe LVG has pictures of him...
 
UnitedinRed said:
Not saying they were expected to, but that others have spent huge money as well. Ranieri was expected to at Chelsea, Chelsea were expected to dominate forever don't forget.
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Ranieri did the best he could. It isn't his fault he faced up against the Invincibles.

Your argument is pretty flawed. It doesn't matter how much a club spends, it's the players being bought with the money.

Speaking of players, Ranieri bought some really awful players like Glen Johnson, Wayne Bridge, Mutu etc. Goes to show how you spend with the investments.
 
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UnitedinRed said:
I thought Stan would be correct tbh, I'm shocked at how much Ranieri spent at Chelsea 15 years ago though. A huge amount of money when £30million was megabucks.

And where do Spurs get their money from? They're spending is insane, several managers spent well over £100million.

Fergie wins though, £870million, 13 titles.
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Ranieri had one season under Roman. It was a more successful season than LVG has managed so far.

Spurs get their money from Joe Lewis / ENIC. If you want to talk net spend then there's your example.
 
Treble said:
Is he honestly now pretending that we weren't expected to be challenging for the league this season??? That he himself wasn't expecting that?!

Ofcourse he has me on ignore now so I can't ask the question. Good job for his sake tbh.
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He'll see your post if I quote you :D
 
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Stan said:
So far LVG has spent £250+million or are you going down the bullshit net spend route?

LVG won't win it from here unless he is granted another £50-£100million in the transfer window and he completely tears up his philosophy.
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Didn't mention net spend.

And we likely won't, but right now, its impossible to say anyone one will win it. Nobody seems bothered so anyone of 5 teams could stumble across the line.
 
Stan said:
What is with this bullshit list? Hughes? AVB? Pardew?

Is this combined clubs across their careers? How is that relevant to what LVG has failed to achieve at United?

Just for the record, LVG has won as many PL titles as all of your very peculiarly constructed list!
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Spending at one club, bar AVB as stated. Taken from transfermarket site.

Spending isn't the key, as shown. Was it Rodgers who said spending £100m should have you challenging for the title... Only for him to fail miserably after saying it? Too easy to say spending must equal success as the list above shows its not always the case.
 
Stan said:
Ranieri had one season under Roman. It was a more successful season than LVG has managed so far.

Spurs get their money from Joe Lewis / ENIC. If you want to talk net spend then there's your example.
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Honestly, who mentioned net spend?

Ranieri spent £200m in the early 00s and didn't win a title. That's right up there with the worst of them.
 
OnlyJuanThingMata said:
Ranieri did the best he could. It isn't his fault he faced up against the Invincibles.

Your argument is pretty flawed. It doesn't matter how much a club spends, it's the players being bought with the money.

Speaking of players, Ranieri bought some really awful players like Glen Johnson, Wayne Bridge, Mutu etc. Goes to show how you spend with the investments.
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Stan mentioned van Gaals spending and that he should be winning titles due to it. I've simply demonstrated he is wrong. It requires more than spending.

Not sure what else there is to say.
 
So on one post Stan accuses me of making it up, only to then quote the same website I was referring too.... <laugh>

Also keeps mentioning net spend. No idea why. Care to explain Stan?
 
UIR is a pure fantasist. The sad thing is that he honestly cannot see the tangled web of bull5hit he weaves <laugh>
 
UnitedinRed said:
Spending at one club, bar AVB as stated. Taken from transfermarket site.

Spending isn't the key, as shown. Was it Rodgers who said spending £100m should have you challenging for the title... Only for him to fail miserably after saying it? Too easy to say spending must equal success as the list above shows its not always the case.
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I very much doubt your list in that case. Very much.
 
UnitedinRed said:
Stan mentioned van Gaals spending and that he should be winning titles due to it. I've simply demonstrated he is wrong. It requires more than spending.

Not sure what else there is to say.
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Ranieri had a better season than LVG has/will manage.

And he was sacked.

His replacement won the league. Twice.
 
UnitedinRed said:
So on one post Stan accuses me of making it up, only to then quote the same website I was referring too.... <laugh>

Also keeps mentioning net spend. No idea why. Care to explain Stan?
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Because the figures you quoted were incorrect. £190m for LVG when the website clearly states £250+m. I was trying to make sense of the figures you were manipulating/fabricating.
 
Stan said:
That it's more than LVG has spent.
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I did state that being in the early 00s it was an massive amount. He spent £153m in one season, 12 years ago. That's the most mental single season spend of any manager.
 
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