1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

2015 Assessment

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Hoops Eternal, Dec 29, 2015.

  1. SARQPR

    SARQPR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2011
    Messages:
    2,010
    Likes Received:
    1,809
    We'll probably still have Clint at centre back

    If only we had another 10 players with his commitment on the pitch this season. That was some smack in the face he took with the ball against Huddersfield
     
    #21
  2. QPRski

    QPRski Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2013
    Messages:
    5,829
    Likes Received:
    4,751
    I am disappointed. We failed "again" in the Premiership and we are currently "failing again" in rebuilding our team. I admit that I am jealous when I watch Leicester who were promoted with us who are now flying high and are really enjoying the Premiership. Take a look at their position a year ago! Watford are another team who were promoted, but fully rebuilt their team ("franchise") and are also successful in the Premiership.

    In the first half of 2015 we again suffered the pain and humiliation of being relegated from the Premiership. For me, even from a distance, it was neither fun or enjoyable.

    However, during the summer I was very optimistic that QPR are finally returning to basics and their "Values and Culture" in building a young and dynamic squad. This new "fresh" approach with the news that we still have Austin, Phillips and Fer unfortunately brought new expectations. Perhaps them not leaving, in hindsight, was the worst thing that could happen to us. We did not "walk the talk" with regard to the youngsters and now are playing much of the team that was not good enough for the Premiership and in addition, we are frustrating the youngsters. I regret that here, two negatives do not make a positive!

    So where are we. I fear that we have wasted 12 months. We have neither improved the team, the culture or the potential for the future. I am most upset that we have not followed "the strategy" of building the correct ethos. But there are positives. We do have an up and coming young manger and potential young talent, but to date he is following the same mistakes with the same results. I hope that he is true to this principles and is given the times and support from both the board and the fans.

    Let's hope that that 2016 will be more enjoyable. Best Wishes to all fellow suffers!
     
    #22
    Hoop-Leif likes this.
  3. SW Ranger

    SW Ranger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    7,264
    Likes Received:
    7,989
    2015?
    Yet another mess of a year. Relegation. More false promises. More sackings. Lack of youth.
    Youth we did bring in isn't being picked anymore. Youth policy not being built.
    New stadium looking like a distant opportunity. New training ground, and youth policy, a false dawn also.
    Fans on everyone's back. Expensive players not performing.
    New kit that doesn't have hoops!!!!
    Dropping easy points we should be capable of keeping. Poor position in a league where we should be pushing for play-off position at minimum.

    So if you're involved in running our club, you shouldn't be sitting comfortably. Whatever plan you have, it isn't working or it needs changing...
    You just keep changing the colour of the lipstick on the pig and think we won't notice.
    So the board and peripheral management need to build a far improved culture within this club. The core is slowly rotting. I have never heard so many dispirited fans on this forum, who are so fed-up and talking of not going to games as they have had enough (and they've seen some tough tough years).

    Roll on 2016. I think
     
    #23
  4. Hoops Eternal

    Hoops Eternal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    9,720
    Likes Received:
    10,611
    Oops! thanks for pointing that out
     
    #24
  5. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2012
    Messages:
    30,881
    Likes Received:
    28,899
    Leicester owners once again treated their fans to a free beer (or water if they preferred) at last nights game. You could argue that being joint top of the PL, offering season tickets at less than £500, in a decent new stadium with good views and leg room, and making good managerial and playing staff decisions they are already doing more than most fans could hope for, without the beer.

    A couple of years ago Leicester were a debt ridden mess as well, their owners converted debt to equity, and pushed on.

    They continue to be the club, with Southampton, which we should copy.
     
    #25
    rangercol and Hoop-Leif like this.
  6. Hoops Eternal

    Hoops Eternal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    9,720
    Likes Received:
    10,611
    Alas, that is pie in the sky for us I suspect
     
    #26

  7. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2011
    Messages:
    18,613
    Likes Received:
    28,533
    Although we went through managers like last week's whelks go through the hapless seafood fan, I'd argue that under the Goons we went forward. Yeah, it was a case of three steps forward, two steps back most of the time, but nonetheless they left the club in a better place than when they arrived. Not that I'm getting all nostalgic for Tango & Mango or looking at things through rose-****ed testicles or nuthin'.
     
    #27
    rangercol and finglasqpr like this.
  8. Tramore Ranger

    Tramore Ranger Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,642
    Likes Received:
    8,527
    Also if you look at the Prem table that HE posted in the OP you will see that all of our 19 points came from home games, not a single point out of 27 available because as Kneecap kept saying "it's hard"......feck me 1 win and 4 draws away from home out of those 9 games would have kept us up......then we could have pushed on this season.......

    But no TF tightens the purse strings, Kneecap gets all huffy and walks....sorry hobbles away......TF gets his "dream manager" who turns out to be our youth team coach already employed by the club so no additional wages.....we only pick up another 11 points from 19 games and go down without so much as a whimper.......Coach gets rewarded with 4 year contract, DOF and TF talk about consolidating, Austin not sold so Premier League is what TF is dreaming about.......Austin injured so play 3 or 4 games without a striker.......Coach gets sacked and then re-appointed as yep you guessed it, Youth team coach......JFH comes in and starts with 4 draws and a defeat......"sack him" shout the fans because he plays without a striker............

    Have i missed anything?
     
    #28
  9. finglasqpr

    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    6,361
    Likes Received:
    3,797
    Good summary. I see your town, Tramore, made the BBC news headlines today for sea foam in the storm last night. Fame at last.
     
    #29
  10. Tramore Ranger

    Tramore Ranger Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,642
    Likes Received:
    8,527
    Did it? I missed that......didn't notice any sea fog mind that was probably because we couldn't see through the rain!!!!.....the storm was something else last night....at least it has calmed down now, the sea has returned to it's normal grey/green colour from its white this morning.....
     
    #30
  11. finglasqpr

    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    6,361
    Likes Received:
    3,797
    Sorry, sea foam. I originally said sea fog but I meant sea foam.
     
    #31
  12. Ninj

    Ninj Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2011
    Messages:
    4,457
    Likes Received:
    3,136
    wonder that when once the FFP fine is sorted out, and a fine imposed, whether then we will be able to really re-build where necessary
     
    #32
  13. Tramore Ranger

    Tramore Ranger Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,642
    Likes Received:
    8,527
    Ah yes...the sand hills have been covered...from a distance it looks like snow.......quite a sight and apparently its knee deep in places!!!!
     
    #33
    finglasqpr likes this.
  14. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    69,806
    Likes Received:
    57,305
    It's been an appalling year and I full expect us to be looking back on a similarly catastrophic one at the end of 2016. I think Hasselbaink is an excellent manager, just the type we need in fact, but has an impossible job when the existing problems within the club remain.

    It'll be a couple of seasons after starting with a fresh, cheapish, youngish team before we can even think about a sustainable squad capable of promotion and that looks some way off still. The training facilities are worse than many L2 sides.
     
    #34
  15. Hoops Eternal

    Hoops Eternal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2011
    Messages:
    9,720
    Likes Received:
    10,611
    As I said earlier, I really don't know what to think anymore. I'd like to know TF's opinion of where he thinks we are.
     
    #35
  16. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    35,557
    Likes Received:
    27,960
    Be prepared to be covered from head to toe in bullsh*t...
     
    #36
    Hoops Eternal likes this.
  17. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2011
    Messages:
    18,613
    Likes Received:
    28,533
    That man has trilled 'keep the faith' more times than Bon Jovi.
     
    #37
    QPR999 and Hoops Eternal like this.
  18. KooPeeArr

    KooPeeArr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2011
    Messages:
    5,903
    Likes Received:
    2,260
    We'll never succeed when the goal is short term success.

    It took only a couple of months to go from build solid foundations to Premiership at all costs. That's purely because of the players we wouldn't budge on price with. Those players are limiting the "team of the future" to morsels of chances and devastating their confidence in the process.

    The original plan could have been realised by the same clear out in January but the change in expectations from the very top (despite the large number of teams fighting for play off places and our modest position) will mean that at best our focus is purely on short term improvements (further devastating the promise of the Summer acquisitions) and at worst split between the two (with little hope of success in promotion or development).

    The likes of Gladwin who didn't immediately shine should have had many games in order to grow into Championship players - we bought them for their capacity to improve as much as where they are now.

    We ****ed it up in the few months after August and we're in the worst position we've been in under TF albeit with a manager that I believe could do well with the correct and consistent remit to build the club sustainably but he'll be gone by next Christmas and the debacle will persist.
     
    #38
    QPR999 and Uber_Hoop like this.

Share This Page