Match Day Thread 2015/16 Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

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Jimmy Squarefoot said:
The fact that you keep referring to the result indicates you don't have a clue.
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It's because he's in tune with "normal" football fans and we're just "detached", ironically

Stan said:
As ever you demonstrate a remarkable detachment from normal football fans who don't live in a world of stats and graphs. You'd be a good cricket fan but you're a hopeless football fan!
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We should be more "normal"
 
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carlthejackal said:
At least half of the league could say that :bandit:
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If we're using the apprpriate margin for 'average' then a lot of lower league teams will feel they would have had a chance had they been in the division too.
 
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Stan said:
You make it sound like this is something Liverpool have been doing for ages but other clubs don't follow suit.

As it is you've done it once and I can tell you why other clubs don't do it after scraping a draw at home to a mid table team, because it was ****ing embarrassing.

The reality is players regularly applaud the fans as they leave the pitch. They just don't do it in a choreographed way that looks like curtain down at a pantomime!
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True...but then your lot leave the pitch to boos and jeers like the pantomime villains, Chelsea leave to the loudest guffaws in panto history and Everton players leave to the audience complaining about the unnecessary grass stains on their kecks.... :grin: We all have our crosses to bear (although most of our crosses don't even beat the first man <grr>)
 
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Jimmy Squarefoot said:
The fact that you keep referring to the result indicates you don't have a clue.
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If you don't think the result was relevant to the look on the players' faces then I'm afraid you don't have a clue Jimmy.

Klopp may have been thanking the fans for staying to the end (which in itself is a bit desperate and a sad indictment on the attitude of a lot of fans) rather than celebrating a point but the players looked embarrassed as they were linking arms and giving it the big hurrah after scraping a draw at home to West Brom. The "show" was the kind of thing teams do when they've won a crucial game or a trophy. It would have been far better, and a lot less embarrassing, if Klopp had just told them to go over and applaud the fans as many teams do every weekend.

The suggestion that Liverpool have somehow set new ground by acknowledging the fans is quite frankly ludicrous. Perhaps people think that as it was such an over the top, contrived display of false appreciation that it got a lot of coverage. Google "football players applaud fans" and click on Images.
 
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astroturfnaut said:
The number of poorly informed morons commenting on Klopp's end of game celebration reminds me of the Suarez ball-to-hand goal where commentators and media discussed how he was making fun of the opponents kissing his wrist, apprently having never seen Suarez score a goal before.

The simple [HASHTAG]#reality[/HASHTAG] is in a home game a short time ago we were losing. Some fans left early. We lost the game. Klopp discussed how he wanted the fans to support to the end, and the players to inspire the fans to support to the end. Then we had another home game, losing in injury time. But instead the atmosphere was better and a goal was scored, after which it seemed a winner was also possible. So Klopp made the players salute the fans not because that was the kind of result we want, but because that is the kind of atmosphere we want.

It's not complicated and anyone criticising it is basically just jealous their own club is soulless. Perhaps we should have blasted "glory glory" over the speakers the second the whistle blew to drown out the boos. Or if it was supposed to be a celebration of the result a pitch invasion would have probably been more appropriate.
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Bang on Astro.

At the end of the day, we all know why Klopp did it and it's the first step to rebuilding the connection with fans and the atmosphere.
 
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The artist JerryChristmas said:
True...but then your lot leave the pitch to boos and jeers like the pantomime villains, Chelsea leave to the loudest guffaws in panto history and Everton players leave to the audience complaining about the unnecessary grass stains on their kecks.... :grin: We all have our crosses to bear (although most of our crosses don't even beat the first man <grr>)
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and apparently your lot usually leave an empty stadium! The fact that the fans hung around this time was cause for celebration!
 
astroturfnaut said:
It's because he's in tune with "normal" football fans and we're just "detached", ironically



We should be more "normal"
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When I said "you" Astro, I meant you. I know you have your disciples who defend your every utterance but I don't lump them in with "you". Your take on football is almost unique.
 
Stan said:
When I said "you" Astro, I meant you. I know you have your disciples who defend your every utterance but I don't lump them in with "you". Your take on football is almost unique.
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[HASHTAG]#almost[/HASHTAG]
 
Klopp's idea, Spontaneous not pre-rehearsed or celebratory.

"And the German said the key bit of his reaction was in thanking the fans for their part in securing a hard won point.

“At the end I just wanted to say thank you, I don't know if this is normal in England or things like this."

It's not the "normal" thing to do in England but its better than having a manager that sits flaccidly through whole games with his manbag on his lap.
 
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I personally think the rivals are more right than our lot.

If the guy asked for the fans to give a big athmosphere and they stayed then the lot of them need to go and thanks the fans for staying... but.... what i saw was celebrating. theres nothing to celebrate in a 2-2 v west brom... at all... nothing.

thank the fans, look embarrassed to serve up such ****e.... but don't celebrate. we are supposedly a big club.... c'mon utd fans are booing thier drivel who are at least still 4th despite being such rot
 
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Page_Moss_Kopite said:
Klopp's idea, Spontaneous not pre-rehearsed or celebratory.

"And the German said the key bit of his reaction was in thanking the fans for their part in securing a hard won point.

“At the end I just wanted to say thank you, I don't know if this is normal in England or things like this."

It's not the "normal" thing to do in England but its better than having a manager that sits flaccidly through whole games with his manbag on his lap.
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LVG playing Angry Birds during games instead of instructing the team may be unacceptable but it doesn't make what Klopp did any less embarrassing!
 
Stan said:
LVG playing Angry Birds during games instead of instructing the team may be unacceptable but it doesn't make what Klopp did any less embarrassing!
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He's paid £250m in micro-transactions and has still only has 1 star on the first level because he dropped the phone and [HASHTAG]#luckedout[/HASHTAG]
 
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Jimmy Squarefoot said:
If you can't accept that or see what Klopp is trying to do, then you can hardly comment on modern football and the disconnect between fans and clubs.
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Yawn.

If you'd have bothered to have actually digested what I said, I clearly said I understood what he was trying to achieve and that his motives were right, but that the execution was OTT and came across as contrived.

Oh and btw, I think I'm far better placed to talk about match going fans than you love x
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
I personally think the rivals are more right than our lot.

If the guy asked for the fans to give a big athmosphere and they stayed then the lot of them need to go and thanks the fans for staying... but.... what i saw was celebrating. theres nothing to celebrate in a 2-2 v west brom... at all... nothing.

thank the fans, look embarrassed to serve up such ****e.... but don't celebrate. we are supposedly a big club.... c'mon utd fans are booing thier drivel who are at least still 4th despite being such rot
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I didn't see celebrating. The main message I saw was that the players were holding hands, but not that the hands were up. Also walking not running. Also no chest sliding towards the fans.
 
Jimmy Squarefoot said:
It's common practice in Germany. Even when they lose, they will applaud the fans.
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Show me where it's documented that after a run of the mill game that he did the arms aloft, hand holding cringe on a weekly basis at Dortmund.

Thanks x
 
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