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Unfortunately they are winning because all public gatherings in Paris are now subject to emergency laws. This includes any demonstrations or gatherings associated with the COP21 climate talks - we have climate activists being placed under house arrest, others being followed by undercover police with homes being raided and computers seized. In other words people who are concerned about global warming are being treated like criminals - it is sad that every time something like this happens the 'state' then strengthens its muscles and innocent people are placed under suspicion.
TWGWTDT
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Terrible stuff G
All the best to your family
Dig deep and find them
They will slip up and when they do let's hope they get what's coming to them
It's all gone off at Leytonstone Station tonight, a nutter with a machete injured several people shouting "This is for Syria". It's entirely random where these things will happen, the only certainty is that they will happen...
Cheers Paul. I feel a bit bad that I was away on a jaunt when it happened, but he seems ok now and reckons he got at least one good kick in.
I hope your boy is ok, Stan. Good to hear that the police are doing their job.
I don't recall feeling at all threatened in the seventies either. There is an element of coincidence in my daughter deciding not to go to Hyde Park. I had tickets to see REM there on 09/07/05 - two days after the 7/7 bombings - but the gig was put back a week for security reasons.
TWGWTDT
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Hope it doesn't effect his inner nut as often these can well after the event
It's takes ****s to do this people without morals. I am forever told my the police in my family that there is always a connection. Someone knows something I bet. People just don't carry cash about. If these rats just did random they got lucky
If there is a connection change their luck I say
Got ripped off a few years back on a car deal ... Not forgotten and when it's time parity will be restored
Sorry to hear that, Stan. Hope your son shrugs off the effects of the robbery quickly. Thankfully, the Government statistics tell us crime is down...yeah, right
Nothing you could have done. I'm glad he did put something on them. It can affect the confidence for a while so getting a small win in terms of hitting back; having that bit of control in a situation where control, along with everything else, gets taken means a lot.
I hope he gets over it as soon as possible.
Thanks for the comments re my lad, lads. He seems fine at the moment but we are keeping an eye on him. Obviously better if this hadn't happened ( including for my wallet as I'm having to sub him until pay day), but also an antidote to that 'I'm invulnerable' assumption that I'm sure we all remember as teenagers. And a nice touch from his employers, when he turned up for work the next day they sent him home but paid him anyway - even though they knew he was about to leave for something more substantial.
He already has good cause to appreciate the police, they have helped him out several times in his short life, including one (in retrospect) hilarious occasion when we got a knock on the door at 3 in the morning - they had found him in a vodka coma in town and were making sure we were home to bring him back. A couple of minutes later they knocked again and apologetically asked if I could go to get him, as they only has one van (the others were in Wales for the summit at Celtic Manor) and they didn't want him to throw up in it. When I got there 3 officers were looking after him and a woman officer said that, when conscious he had been very contrite and apologetic saying 'he's a credit to you'. I couldn't help laughing and saying 'hardly'. I was chuffed later when I went to the station to thank them to learn that the boy had already been in to do the same, unprompted by me.
He acts as an excellent reverse role model for my daughter, who appears to be taking it in a 50/50 amused and horrified way.
He already has good cause to appreciate the police, they have helped him out several times in his short life, including one (in retrospect) hilarious occasion when we got a knock on the door at 3 in the morning - they had found him in a vodka coma in town and were making sure we were home to bring him back. A couple of minutes later they knocked again and apologetically asked if I could go to get him, as they only has one van (the others were in Wales for the summit at Celtic Manor) and they didn't want him to throw up in it. When I got there 3 officers were looking after him and a woman officer said that, when conscious he had been very contrite and apologetic saying 'he's a credit to you'. I couldn't help laughing and saying 'hardly'. I was chuffed later when I went to the station to thank them to learn that the boy had already been in to do the same, unprompted by me.
He acts as an excellent reverse role model for my daughter, who appears to be taking it in a 50/50 amused and horrified way.
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It's the old chestnut 'Lies, damned lies and statistics'. We're constantly fed that line but the key element is 'reported crime'. Many people don't even bother reporting minor crime due to the small likelihood of any chance of a result so we don't see the bigger picture.
I'll add my best wishes for Stan's boy, the reality is such a confrontation can often have a much worse ending...
All the best to you and your son mate. Judging by your subsequent posts it would seem that you're both dealing with this horrid event admirably.
To be honest mate I am ruminating more on the circumstances that made me miss our 1-0 home win v City (Dave Webb scorer) on March 27th 1976. Plus it's my wife's birthday tomorrow and I haven't got her anything yet. Thank Parliament for Sunday trading.
Well, since you ask.....my Dad's firm built and designed exhibition stands. On Saturday 27 March 1976 he told me that he had to nip into Olympia where the Ideal Home exhibition was going on because a customer wanted something changing on a stand. This was pretty unusual once an exhibition was open to the public, and usually his business partner Bob (VC, another story) would have done it, as my dad was responsible for design and selling not building these things. But Bob was away watching ****ing Fulham, I think. I was offered the choice of being dropped off very early for the home game against City or tagging along to help Tommy the carpenter (father of Paul Cook Sex Pistols drummer, Chelsea fan) with any labouring for a few quid. Being a 15 year old and being assured we would still make the game I opted for the cash. Very soon became clear that it was a bigger job than anticipated, but I loyally hung around trying to help in a cack handed way. I can't remember exactly the timelines, we may have missed the kick off or first half, or maybe even the whole game already, when the bomb went off. Or it may have gone off before it even started, I can't remember. Left in a litter bin at the top of a flight of stairs, 70 injured including 4 amputations, I read now. We were all untouched except for ringing ears, from the explosion and then the screaming. Obviously no chance of getting to the game then. The only home game I missed in our season of near glory.
Oddly didn't seem to shock or upset me at all, as far as I can recall. I was much more upset as a 30 year old on the edges of a New Years Eve crush in Lan Kwai Fong, Hong Kong, in which I think over 20 people died.
I used to love going to exhibitions before they were open to the public, especially press day for the motor show and the boat show, when bikini clad models were reclining all over the exhibits. I think my dad liked them too, as he always had a reason to be in the exhibition halls on those days......
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TWGWTDT
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Tech is the answer long term
A criminal will need to think a lot smarter as we move forward
They will need shed all tech to commit any crime
80% of all emails done on smart phones ... Is there anyone on here without a mobile phone?
Hence the new snooper bill being made public ... It will ramp up as we all believe we are in control our own tech .
I run a little bit of software on the command line level on macs
Just updated my passport and entered my mobile to track deliver
Saw that I got a little ping from unknown server and wasn't blocked as usual ... Traced it to be them and they are in
These tools will help crime in a few years certain of it. This ping went straight through my firewall like butter and when I go back at the weekend to France I will test there to see if I am picked up there
No one is watching in short it's just a program
Think I am daft?
cctv, cars have been chipped for 10 years including parts
Public transport
cashless payments
Wifi ... Smart television
The list is large
But long term if you have nothing to link you into the network then there will be a reason
Challenging thought to think nothing can be done without the internet
Crimes will be much harder to plan and execute as this grows
As said to Stan with his boy certain there will be connection here
In the future these rats will be found quicker and that should turn fear back onto the people who go out to cause it . Hope they get caught and pay to society and then after that track them ( well if you can after what I have said ) wait a few years then they get double bubble if you still feel sore ... But be careful
A criminal will need to think a lot smarter as we move forward
They will need shed all tech to commit any crime
80% of all emails done on smart phones ... Is there anyone on here without a mobile phone?
Hence the new snooper bill being made public ... It will ramp up as we all believe we are in control our own tech .
I run a little bit of software on the command line level on macs
Just updated my passport and entered my mobile to track deliver
Saw that I got a little ping from unknown server and wasn't blocked as usual ... Traced it to be them and they are in
These tools will help crime in a few years certain of it. This ping went straight through my firewall like butter and when I go back at the weekend to France I will test there to see if I am picked up there
No one is watching in short it's just a program
Think I am daft?
cctv, cars have been chipped for 10 years including parts
Public transport
cashless payments
Wifi ... Smart television
The list is large
But long term if you have nothing to link you into the network then there will be a reason
Challenging thought to think nothing can be done without the internet
Crimes will be much harder to plan and execute as this grows
As said to Stan with his boy certain there will be connection here
In the future these rats will be found quicker and that should turn fear back onto the people who go out to cause it . Hope they get caught and pay to society and then after that track them ( well if you can after what I have said ) wait a few years then they get double bubble if you still feel sore ... But be careful
In case we didn't know already, Donald Trump proves yet again that he will say literally anything to get elected. A populist of the worst sort, playing exclusively to people's fears and worst instincts. Racism, misogyny, vanity, incoherence. What a ****.
He really is a complete twat!
Also, imo there are some serious concerns surrounding religion, security etc but this idiot's rants damage the validity of those genuine concerns.