[QUOitedinRed, post: 8613268, member: 1021215"]Bloody hell man, I am getting to it. First I need your help. The chronological order of the Qaran. What can you tell me about it. Why isn't the qaran you read in chronological order? Why when you do put the events in chronological order do the violent messages actually come later and supersed the earlier messages of peace (often from Muhammeds life as a nobody in Mecca, a place where he had many, many enemies, not Medina where Muhammed the warlord came into being) Can you explain that objectionally?[/QUOTE] Boy slimy arent! Why dont you prove your point and show me the two version! You dont need my help you seem to be an expert on the subject along with tobes etc.
There's only one person with a chip on their shoulder. Unless page sticks his oar in and brings up the Irish, randomly. It ain't me, pal. And you may want to rethink your second paragraph
I'm doing just that. Is your Quran in Chronological order? Who translated it? What is the actual chronological order? These are all very important questions. BTW, I fixed the quoting issue you had. It's annoying.
You make me laugh! Trying to find anything that you can bash islam with...this is recent and more to do with nayionalism than islam! I can bring youtube videos like this from biased sources to try and prove my point. You are yet to backup any of your claims with any real proof, yet to see the two version of the quran as well...
Can I ask what your proof is. Go on, say a magic book, just do it. Mines eye witness and real accounts from Jews and Christians throughout history, those actually living under such laws. What about the million Jews displaced in the middle east before any thoughts of an Israeli State? These are historical facts. You probably think its a EDL propaganda movie or something like Aisha and Muhammad. Its not, its a factual documentary scratching away as the myths of Islam. The fact you believe strongly in these myths, makes your opinion biased. Mine is not biased, merely probing.
Posted by the 'man' who labelled me a bigot for daring to suggest that Islam and Isis were linked back at the start of this thread. Fast forward a week and "you muzzies are all hot headed ****ers eh, no wonder you're all so easily recruited by terrorists" You ****ing hypocritical prick
For future clarification, nothing, and I mean nothing written in a magical book of stories constitutes proof in any form. Unless collaborated by historical events, dates. Religion and history are very different entities and tekk a very different story of human history than the various religious texts do. There is little to no bias for or against any religion on history, it paints all as bad as each other. So before a believer presents a quote from a religious book or someone's opinion and paints it as fact, you couldn't be further from one.
Randomly? It was relevant to the point you made and showed your hypocrisy tbf. 6 counties in the northeast of Ireland are still under British rule, due to religious tyranny and thuggery by a branch of the Christian protestant church and continuous British government's have pandered to their decades old threats of civil war if the 6 counties ever come under Irish rule. Religion(any) and politics(any party in any country) don't mix, and that applies to the UK as well as everyone else.
It was a nationalist issue rather than a religious one. The religious differences just gave some an excuse. And I fully agree, politics and religion should be separated at every level. Religion should have zero influence. Just unsure what any of that has to do with Islamic terrorism which despite the media push to deny any link, is massively influenced by Islam. There are huge difference between the IRA and Islamic terrorist. There's also the fact that it doesn't excuse, in any way, their cause.
2012 Muslim care worker refuses to be spy for MI5, Theresa may revokes his passport amd his family say the Americans are torturing him http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-worker-refused-join-MI5-African-prison.html institutional racism His family were right, the Americans kidnapped him in Somalia and the lad has been in US custody without legal representation and being tortured for 3 years and now 2015 he turns up in a US court room FBI threatening law abiding muslims to be spies ot "they may get run over" now if you refuse MI5 you get kidnapped and handed to the americans and May will revoke your passport. #democracy
And. He was suspected of extremism, I'm sure they didn't just make it up as much as you like to imagine. They made him an offer, one they probably make to a number of suspects (they certainly do for non terrorism). His parents denying he was doesn't wash. Most terrosmrists and extremists parents are blind and have no idea what their kids are up to until it's too late. Not saying its nice. Only that its the reality right now. If people weren't trying to blow us up, we would probably be more relaxed.
I don't understand why that guy would plead guilty now that he's in the US, though. The whole thing sounds a bit dodgy, but he's got access to lawyers now, so why plead out?
