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Tom Jones Is Getting His DNA Tested To See If He Has ‘Black Ancestors’

Sir Tom Jones has revealed that he wants to get his DNA tested to find out if he has any black ancestors, with the music legend admitting that he has “always wondered” if he is mixed race.
The 75-year-old is keen to get the test done in the near future so that he can gain a better understanding of his heritage.
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Speaking to Times magazine, the star explained: “A lot of people still think I’m black. When I first came to America, people who had heard me sing on the radio would be surprised that I was white when they saw me.
“Because of my hair, a lot of black people still tell me that I’m just passing as white.”
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When Tom’s mother, Freda, who is of Welsh and English descent, gave birth to him doctors reportedly asked her if she had any “black blood” after she developed dark patches of skin following her labour.
Tom clarified: “When I was born, my mother came out in big dark patches all over her body.
“They [the doctors and midwives] asked if she had any black blood and she said she didn’t know. I’m going to get my DNA tested.
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I remember seeing some Louis Theroux thing in America once, about race groups there. They did the usual KKK, white-supremacist nutters, but they also showed this black group whose leader was convinced that Sir Tom was black by virtue of the fact that no white man could sing that good (and he was serious). Then again, he reckoned Elizabeth I was black as he had an etching of her that was a bit like a reverse-negative photo.

Otis really rated him too. Could there be any higher, cooler praise?
 
The (0fficial) Taylor Report smashed the police line on Hillsborough. The 'cover-up' was about the police behaviour and lies told to the inquest. But however many reports are put in the public domain, nothing is going to change closed minds that thrive on hatred. Some people have their pre-set conception and any deviation or argument against that is just seen as 'victimhood'. The 'truth' will never change this.

Spot on Donga.<ok>
 
Oh whoop ****y do he's back at it again.
Dwight D Eisenhower had black DNA, he was a mixed race president. Long before Obama.


1 in 20 whites in the Southern States have at least 1% African DNA. (some a lot more than that)

It is estimated that 98% of all people on earth have ancestors of "different races" if you go back 17 generations. Travel wasn't as common in earlier generations but still happened.

A "pure race" doesn't exist and never has.
 
1 in 20 whites in the Southern States have at least 1% African DNA. (some a lot more than that)

It is estimated that 98% of all people on earth have ancestors of "different races" if you go back 17 generations. Travel wasn't as common in earlier generations but still happened.

A "pure race" doesn't exist and never has.
Not sure about that.
These guys seem to have stuck to one familial gene, maybe a little too adherently:

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This is what people come up with when they think about it, answers on a postcard
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That's kinda my point.

You pick up on any conspiracy that makes the UK/US look bad (or related orgs like NATO etc). Believe whatever facts some wacko conspiracist says without doing any critical thought... Whilst immediately dismissing all main stream outlets like the beeb (or in this case every single US network) as unreliable.


There are millions of people who live in New York. Are they all being paid off by the US government to say 9/11 happened when it didn't?

Not to mention the hundreds of tourists who would have been in lower Manhattan/tribeca/battery park area. Did the US government buy them off too.


Same with your Aer Lingus conspiracy. If it were really British military shooting the plane down the Irish government would be livid... Not telling everyone the British didn't do it.

A little common sense should tell you these wacko conspiracy theories are meritless. But you believe them (or at least report them) with religious zeal just because it backs your anti UK/US stance without thinking.

No. I'm not going to waste all day investigating the aer Lingus conspiracy because 5 mins tells me it is ludicrous.
 
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That's kinda my point.

You pick up on any conspiracy that makes the UK/US look bad (or related orgs like NATO etc). Believe whatever facts some wacko conspiracist says without doing any critical thought... Whilst immediately dismissing all main stream outlets like the beeb (or in this case every single US network) as unreliable.


There are millions of people who live in New York. Are they all being paid off by the US government to say 9/11 happened when it didn't?

Not to mention the hundreds of tourists who would have been in lower Manhattan/tribeca/battery park area. Did the US government buy them off too.


Same with your Aer Lingus conspiracy. If it were really British military shooting the plane down the Irish government would be livid... Not telling everyone the British didn't do it.

A little common sense should tell you these wacko conspiracy theories are meritless. But you believe them (or at least report them) with religious zeal just because it backs your anti UK/US stance without thinking.

Do yourself a favour and don't get in to this with him.
I gave up a while ago.
I will admit that some of his thoughts on Climate change had some merit and I have researched more into things he said and its not all easily explained, but its a complicated matter and one thats baffled people much more intelligent than will ever grace these forums.

However, the 9/11, Sandy Hook bullshit et all........totally ****ing wackadoo.....don't even get into it with him.
 
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Do yourself a favour and don't get in to this with him.
I gave up a while ago.
I will admit that some of his thoughts on Climate change had some merit and I have researched more into things he said and its not all easily explained, but its a complicated matter and one thats baffled people much more intelligent than will ever grace these forums.

However, the 9/11, Sandy Hook bullshit et all........totally ****ing wackadoo.....don't even get into it with him.



That's why I normally only say one or two posts and then drop it. It's not normally worth arguing with either ideologues or religious zealots because they only believe what they want to believe and ignore reason.

His climate change stuff is all deliberately deceptive like his chart (showing sea level going up but he streches the y axis to include Gore's prediction to make the curve look flatter)... Or refering to regional occurances like sea ice increasing (globally temperatures have gone up though). Also the sea ice and snowfalls are impacted by warming air. The polar regions are pretty much cold deserts it almost never rains or shows there because it is too cold.

Arctic and Antarctic have more percipitation as a result of warming air... Water falling on land that gets below freezing = more ice.

So don't read too much into his climate change denial. There's actually reasonable more plausible explanation for the parts that arnt just conspiracy nonsense.
 
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I have a 4 year old daughter tho man, I cannot imagine her getting shot and killed at School and a slew of ****ing idiots denying her existence and vandalising memorials to her etc.
Cannot even begin to imagine the grief the parents must be going through, and we get morons denying it happened. I don't think I would be able to contain myself if I had been that girls father, he would be 6 feet under and i'd no doubt be in jail.
 
That's why I normally only say one or two posts and then drop it. It's not normally worth arguing with either ideologues or religious zealots because they only believe what they want to believe and ignore reason.

His climate change stuff is all deliberately deceptive like his chart (showing sea level going up but he streches the y axis to include Gore's prediction to make the curve look flatter)... Or refering to regional occurances like sea ice increasing (globally temperatures have gone up though). Also the sea ice and snowfalls are impacted by warming air. The polar regions are pretty much cold deserts it almost never rains or shows there because it is too cold.

Arctic and Antarctic have more percipitation as a result of warming air... Water falling on land that gets below freezing = more ice.

So don't read too much into his climate change denial. There's actually reasonable more plausible explanation for the parts that arnt just conspiracy nonsense.


<<<<< Puts the kettle on
 
I have a 4 year old daughter tho man, I cannot imagine her getting shot and killed at School and a slew of ****ing idiots denying her existence and vandalising memorials to her etc.
Cannot even begin to imagine the grief the parents must be going through, and we get morons denying it happened. I don't think I would be able to contain myself if I had been that girls father, he would be 6 feet under and i'd no doubt be in jail.

I'm with you on this. I'll happily admit (my Mrs knows it too well), if anyone did anything deliberate to my children in a way that is evil to the core I would torture them and kill them, and happily find peace in a jail cell for the rest of my days. That's the gods honest truth <ok>




*better add 'allegedly' due to yesterdays hotshot laywer debate!
 
Oscar Pistorius lawyer recorded saying: 'I am going to lose'
Unclear what Barry Roux was referring to in comments made after appeal hearing where prosecutors called for murder conviction

According to reports, Roux was overheard saying in Afrikaans: ‘But that I am going to lose is a fact.’ Photograph: Rex Shutterstock
Simon Allison in Bloemfontein
Tuesday 3 November 2015 13.26 GMT Last modified on Tuesday 3 November 2015 14.18 GMT

Oscar Pistorius’s defence lawyer has been inadvertently recorded telling his opposite number “I am going to lose” after prosecutors at an appeal hearing called for the athlete to be convicted of murder for shooting his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp.
The context of the quotes or whether Barry Roux was referring to a point of law, the appeal as a whole or an unrelated matter was not immediately clear. The South African news site News24 said the exchange happened after the court adjourned when microphones in place for broadcasters recorded Roux telling the state prosecutor, Gerrie Nel, in Afrikaans: “But that I am going to lose is a fact.”
Pistorius was convicted of culpable homicide last year and freed on parole to house arrest last month. If the appeal is successful, Pistorius will probably return to prison.
Arguments at the Bloemfontein appeal court centred on whether Pistorius had the intention necessary for a murder conviction and, if the court does find against the athlete, whether it can impose a new conviction or must order a retrial.
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Oscar Pistorius at a bail hearing in 2013. Prosecutors have called for him to be convicted of murder for shooting his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp. Photograph: Themba Hadebe/AP
Neither prosecution nor defence are keen on a lengthy and expensive retrial. Nel was highly critical of the original trial judge, Thokozile Masipa. “The court ignored the most important circumstantial evidence,” he said, contending that this failure led to Masipa misconstruing Pistorius’s actions on the night in question.
Nel also argued that Masipa was inconsistent in relying on Pistorius’s evidence when she had already dismissed him as an unreliable witness.
Roux tried to argue that these issues were questions of fact, rather than law, and therefore not grounds for an appeal.
The judges interrupted him frequently: they were more interested in his interpretation of the concept of dolus eventualis – in this case the argument over whether Pistorius foresaw the possibility that he might kill someone when he shot four bullets into a tiny bathroom.
“Did he believe he was entitled to shoot in those circumstances?” asked Justice Eric Leach repeatedly, referring to the tiny dimensions of the bathroom in which Steenkamp died. “There was no place to hide.”
Oscar Pistorius appeal judge: Reeva Steenkamp had nowhere to hide
Roux told the court the question could not be separated from Pistorius’s mental state and his physical condition as a double leg amputee. “Bang bang bang bang. [Pistorius] fired shots in quick succession. He should have thought better. He should not have fired four shots. He should not have fired shots at all. But that does not explain what his mind is saying … Something must have happened in that man’s mind that forced him to fire and explains that … It’s unfair to see this through the prism of someone standing there with two legs,” he said in his closing statement.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...er-barry-roux-i-am-going-to-lose?CMP=ema_565a
 
That's kinda my point.

You pick up on any conspiracy that makes the UK/US look bad (or related orgs like NATO etc). Believe whatever facts some wacko conspiracist says without doing any critical thought... Whilst immediately dismissing all main stream outlets like the beeb (or in this case every single US network) as unreliable.


There are millions of people who live in New York. Are they all being paid off by the US government to say 9/11 happened when it didn't?

Not to mention the hundreds of tourists who would have been in lower Manhattan/tribeca/battery park area. Did the US government buy them off too.


Same with your Aer Lingus conspiracy. If it were really British military shooting the plane down the Irish government would be livid... Not telling everyone the British didn't do it.

A little common sense should tell you these wacko conspiracy theories are meritless. But you believe them (or at least report them) with religious zeal just because it backs your anti UK/US stance without thinking.

No. I'm not going to waste all day investigating the aer Lingus conspiracy because 5 mins tells me it is ludicrous.


The 9\11 is nothing, your historical knowledge of the world is tragically lacking so you see the world differently.

When I grow up in western society hearing how moral and good we are and how bad the rest of the world is, then learn we are worse (governments) then yeah I am gonna ppint out the hypocracy.

This is my part of the world remember, I know little about quite a few countries I never talk about.

Your default position is a ludicrous propaganda stance of Russia is bad Iran is bad we are good.

You do the exact same thing I do, except you talk about a country you know nothing about, Russia. I know the history of the western nations very well indeed and they have caused more suffering around the world than any other nations on earth in the past several hundred years.

I point out all of the atrocities of the western saint nations because the media and academia will not do it, outlook s like yours are a result of that whitewash of real history. We have yards of Russia is bad stuff but no honesty about our own governments.


Now tell me who iran has attacked in last few hundred years?
Tell me the countries Russia has invaded and occupied and still occupies?
Tell me how many Russian bases are outside Russia?

"oh Russia kills people" whilst Milk forgets Obama is murdering children with Drones and American citizens without evidence trial conviction. Remind me how many official Russian assassination programs run around the world, As we speak Obama is building Drone bases secretly in Africa.
The UK has an official assassination program too, again no trial, no need to provide evidence.

Give me a ****ing break <laugh>


Have you ever even heard of the Safari club?
 
To use a simple analogy, when my son comes telling me anothe kid did this and that.. the first question I ask him is "and what did you do?"

The same applies to examining claims of our governments.

We still support regimes far worse than Iran or Russia, like the Saudis. Yet still claim we are "better than them".
 
To use a simple analogy, when my son comes telling me anothe kid did this and that.. the first question I ask him is "and what did you do?"

The same applies to examining claims of our governments.

We still support regimes far worse than Iran or Russia, like the Saudis. Yet still claim we are "better than them".
Well personally I dont claim anyone is better than anyone, I just call BS for what it is when I see it.

What the **** has Milks knowledge of Russia got to do with his thought on 9/11?
Did he even mention Russia?
 
The 9\11 is nothing, your historical knowledge of the world is tragically lacking so you see the world differently.

When I grow up in western society hearing how moral and good we are and how bad the rest of the world is, then learn we are worse (governments) then yeah I am gonna ppint out the hypocracy.

This is my part of the world remember, I know little about quite a few countries I never talk about.

Your default position is a ludicrous propaganda stance of Russia is bad Iran is bad we are good.

You do the exact same thing I do, except you talk about a country you know nothing about, Russia. I know the history of the western nations very well indeed and they have caused more suffering around the world than any other nations on earth in the past several hundred years.

I point out all of the atrocities of the western saint nations because the media and academia will not do it, outlook s like yours are a result of that whitewash of real history. We have yards of Russia is bad stuff but no honesty about our own governments.


Now tell me who iran has attacked in last few hundred years?
Tell me the countries Russia has invaded and occupied and still occupies?
Tell me how many Russian bases are outside Russia?

"oh Russia kills people" whilst Milk forgets Obama is murdering children with Drones and American citizens without evidence trial conviction. Remind me how many official Russian assassination programs run around the world, As we speak Obama is building Drone bases secretly in Africa.
The UK has an official assassination program too, again no trial, no need to provide evidence.

Give me a ****ing break <laugh>


Have you ever even heard of the Safari club?

I actually agree with the vast majority of that.

But as Bodanki said - I'm not sure the need for this outcry simply due to Milk not going with a theory that you support <laugh>