Daily Racing Thread Wednesday 23rd. Sept. 2015

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? When a QC wins a race for you, it shows everything that is wrong with racing.
You could easily say Nass that when stewards take the race away from you with a wrong decision because one jockey was more articulate and forceful than the other and they didn't apply the rules correctly, or consistently, "it shows everything that is wrong with racing". Thank goodness there is an appeal system for when they get it wrong. This isn't the only sport where decisions go to appeal. Where would we be without an appeal system? It would open up the possibility of corrupt/incompetent decision making with no recourse for the victim.
 
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<confused> Not sure how you can predict the future DK? You'd imagine a few will certainly chance their hand a bit seeing how Atzeni's tactics paid dividends in a high profile case like this?

Same as overuse of whip in big races. Might as well, horse won't lose the r
You could easily say Nass that when stewards take the race away from you with a wrong decision because one jockey was more articulate and forceful than the other and they didn't apply the rules correctly, or consistently, "it shows everything that is wrong with racing". Thank goodness there is an appeal system for when they get it wrong. This isn't the only sport where decisions go to appeal. Where would we be without an appeal system? It would open up the possibility of corrupt/incompetent decision making with no recourse for the victim.

But they didn't get it wrong, the interference to get out of the hole won the filly the race and therefor it was a correct stewards.
 
Same as overuse of whip in big races. Might as well, horse won't lose the r


But they didn't get it wrong, the interference to get out of the hole won the filly the race and therefor it was a correct stewards.
OK Nass. That's your opinion, and you aren't alone. But there are even more (allegedly) who believe it was the wrong decision. If nothing else, surely that in itself is a pretty strong indication that to determine "there was no doubt that any interference cost BB the race" was incorrect. There is a theory (apparently) that the race BB lost at York (unfairly according to some) may have affected the original decision. Not saying I agree with that as clearly it shouldn't have.
 
OK Nass. That's your opinion, and you aren't alone. But there are even more (allegedly) who believe it was the wrong decision. If nothing else, surely that in itself is a pretty strong indication that to determine "there was no doubt that any interference cost BB the race" was incorrect. There is a theory (apparently) that the race BB lost at York (unfairly according to some) may have affected the original decision. Not saying I agree with that as clearly it shouldn't have.

Well it did cost him the race, because the filly wouldn't have got out. All I'm saying is that it isn't clear that the stewards were wrong and it's all down to lawyers rather than horsemanship and it's wrong. People seem to forget that it's not just about the horse but also the jockey too and for me Atzenis riding and the interference cost BB the race.
 
Guys- I'm in a bit of a unique situation.

I had a rather chunky bet on Simple Verse via the Ladbrokes Exchange (Betdaq). I am now in the ridiculous position of having a horse first past the post and successfully re installed the winner upon appeal and not a bleeding penny for it.

What the hell am I meant to do in situations like these?
 
It was an abysmal Classic, I'm amazed people care that much tbh <laugh>

FWIW I think the filly was the best horse in it but I think the riding tactics were disgraceful. Its like a football team dominating a match but only winning by an offside goal, whilst coming close to injuring someone badly. An inelegant example but you get the drift.

The result was always going one way, as the Qatari outfit weren‘t going to lose were they!!!
 
Guys- I'm in a bit of a unique situation.

I had a rather chunky bet on Simple Verse via the Ladbrokes Exchange (Betdaq). I am now in the ridiculous position of having a horse first past the post and successfully re installed the winner upon appeal and not a bleeding penny for it.

What the hell am I meant to do in situations like these?

Write to the BHA and demand they pay you out.

Blimey the Aussies look good
 
Tahiti One 14/1 in the Kempton 5.20. 2lb higher than when 2nd over this distance at Epsom latest and has a couple of Polytrack victories to her name already. Look's overpriced in a very mediocre race for the Tony Carroll yard.

Non runner thankfully in the end as the winner was not for beating this evening.
 
Guys- I'm in a bit of a unique situation.

I had a rather chunky bet on Simple Verse via the Ladbrokes Exchange (Betdaq). I am now in the ridiculous position of having a horse first past the post and successfully re installed the winner upon appeal and not a bleeding penny for it.

What the hell am I meant to do in situations like these?

Slap Atzeni round the head for acting such a gutless twat in the stewards room the first day...
 
Whats that showing me mate, was that put up on here, I'm genuinely confused now <laugh>

21 Sep 15 18:46
"St Johnstone 9/2 - Massive Price
On large and be very surprised if they get beat, should win."

September 22, 2015 6:38 PM
"St Johnstone 2-0 30/1
St Johnstone 3-1 50/1"

September 22, 2015 7:14 PM
"on the break, huns expecting a win, all on rangers to attack, craig gordon stopped st johnstone sneaking a draw at parkhead although they ddint deserve it

against the huns they are no 9/2 shots in a million year

wake up call for the huns tonight"

der kaiser doesnt aftertime, just ask the lads on chatbox last night
 
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Guys- I'm in a bit of a unique situation.

I had a rather chunky bet on Simple Verse via the Ladbrokes Exchange (Betdaq). I am now in the ridiculous position of having a horse first past the post and successfully re installed the winner upon appeal and not a bleeding penny for it.

What the hell am I meant to do in situations like these?
The chap on the ATR desk was saying exactly the same happened to him. He also said he would be "all over the 7/4 against the appeal succeeding". The chap he was talking to agreed. They both thought justice had been done (as did 70% of the tweets). Interesting.