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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Cb, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Do you actually rate Kane though? I think he's OK. Nothing special. Just quite another good English striker overhyped simply because he's English. Far better players we could spend that sort of big money on.
     
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  2. Smirnoffpriest

    Smirnoffpriest Well-Known Member

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    I reckon Spurs would sell him to us for cheaper than that, they'd give us a local rates discount! ;p
     
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  3. BrunelGooner

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    He's 22 years old and got 31 goals last season. Whichever way you look at it, that's pretty damn impressive.

    That's not to say that I think he's an exceptional talent - after all, it could just have been a once-off - but based on last season, he did very well for Spurs, particularly as his goalscoring touch came out of the blue and no-one would have predicted it.
     
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  4. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    21 prem goals in 34. Impressive.

    0 in 5 games this season.

    At the moment he's nothing more than a one season wonder. Now teams know about him he needs to maintain that scoring streak to be classed as anything other than 'good'.
     
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  5. BrunelGooner

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    The whole discussion about trying to lure him away from Spurs is superfluous anyway. It obviously is never going to happen.
     
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    I love that word. It's fire!
     
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  7. TheBear

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    He looks a TOP talent if Im honest. Despite not scoring for Spurs yet this term he still looks the part.

    Even watching him for England I've been impressed. Good first touch, work rate, link up play and obviously a good finisher.

    Last Season I was kinda hoping he was just 'a one hit wonder' but honestly he looks the real deal to me.
     
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  8. TheBear

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    Why not? They need to learn their place in the World.
     
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  9. Sign Da Ting

    Sign Da Ting Well-Known Member

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    Harry Kane has got a ton of potential. Anyone who calls him a one season wonder doesn't know what they're talking about. He's 22. He had a great season so the expectation will be high.

    If you watch his movement and General play, there's no doubt in my mind he has the potential to be world class. But it's a moot point. We have a better chance of signing Messi than singing Kane from Spurs. Levy Is a tight bastard and Wenger is even tighter.
     
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  10. TheBear

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    Theo Walcott has scored 12 goals in his last 13 starts.

    If he keeps that up Wenger will be vindicated over his transfer decisions.
     
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  11. BrunelGooner

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    First of all, that's a big if. A massive if, actually. Second of all, it was a huge and unnecessary risk to not buy a striker this Summer which would have provided more competition and given us more strength in depth. Furthermore, neglecting the DM position was just as, if not, more ludicrous.

    So no, he most definitely would not be vindicated over his transfer decisions.
     
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  12. TheBear

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    Yeah it was and I was one of the main posters on here calling for Wenger to sign a Top striker.

    However.. If Walcott goes on to score say 25+ goals this term Wenger will have been proved correct in his assessment. At the end of the day he didn't sign a striker because he didn't feel he could get someone in who could do a better job that what he already had. (to paraphrase)

    The thing that's interesting even if Walcott suddenly does push on to the next level and really reaches his potential. I doubt many of the anti-Wenger posters will admit he was correct in his decision.

    Personally I would like to see us add another TOP forward but on the other hand I could see Walcott surprising a lot of people and hitting big numbers this term.
     
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  13. BrunelGooner

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    No, he wouldn't. Walcott could score 50 goals this season and it still wouldn't vindicate Wenger's decision to not acquire a striker this Summer when we had the means to. He took a risk that he didn't need to. If Walcott does succeed this season, that would be in spite of Wenger's decision making, not because of.

    Which is precisely the same mentality that shows why we went 9 years without winning silverware and have gone 11 years without winning the league.

    Let's not be juvenile with such labels of 'Anti-Wenger'. I want the man to succeed and do well for us. My personal view is that he isn't capable of it anymore, that doesn't mean I want him out regardless of any future circumstances. Nevertheless, Walcott has been with us since 2006. Nearly 10 years now. If he doesn't fulfil his potential soon, he never will. He and Arsene have had more than enough time to be fair.

    It's not just about the numbers he hits. It's about the importance of those goals and whether those goals win us games or whether they are scored when we are in our comfort zone. Can he do it on a regular basis? Can he do it in the big games? Can he be relied upon consistently? I'm yet to be convinced, but will be delighted to see him do well for us.

    The reason why he played so well against Leicester was due to the open space they left at the back. If more teams do that, he will get plenty of joy. If teams sit deep, however, his influence is limited greatly and this will be problematic when teams come to the Emirates because they tend to tighten up.
     
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  14. TheBear

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    Absolutely not. Walcott will not develop into a top striker without the games up front.
    If we spent £50 million on Benzema you think Walcott would have been given the playing time needed up front?. I think thats highly unlikely.

    I'm not sure Wenger still has what it takes either. Thats not really what Im arguing.

    I have to say I always thought Walcott had the potential. I still think his best role may be as a WF but who knows perhaps he can develop into a top class CF. (He can certainly finish and his pace is phenomenal so thats a good start.)

    If he does make the step up. I would say Arsene deserves some credit for that.
     
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  15. BrunelGooner

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    What does this have to do with Wenger being negligent in the transfer market? If we actually had a proper striker up front, we could have played Walcott alongside said striker or he could have been rotated with said striker. In any case, the numbers you're talking about Walcott scoring are completely hypothetical. In his time at Arsenal, he has never scored more than 21 goals for us in one season and even then, he got a bunch of his goals in games against lesser opposition or in braces, rather than consistently.

    There's been nothing to show so far that Walcott can score 25+ goals for us in a single season.


    You're assuming that Walcott is our best option in that position. If we had Benzema, he would have been far better suited to the CF role, so yes, of course Walcott would not have been given the game time up front. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be useful in a different position. This is a bit of a strawman argument.

    He would. But that shouldn't deviate from the fact that Wenger's decision making was very poor this Summer. As I said before though. Walcott has been with us for 10 years. He's 26 now. These are going to be his best years. So if he doesn't make the step up now, I don't think he'll ever fulfil what people expected of him when he first arrived onto the scene.
     
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  16. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia Forum Moderator

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    I'm not being funny lads but this thread is for transfer rumours.If you want to discuss individual players make a new thread <ok>
     
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  17. PeterRICK

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    I love Theodore, think he's a real talent once he gets a run under his belt and he certainly looks to be developing into the sort of player we all hoped/assumed he would when we signed him as a kid. Problem is he has looked very handy before, right up until he gets another long term injury and we're back to square one. I'd like to see us dip into the ransfer market and supplement what we already have.

    Personally, I think Arsenal fan Harry Kane would be a cracking fit for the club. <whistle>
     
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  18. TheBear

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    Lacazette looks likely to move this January after falling out with the Club President.

    Could be worth a cheeky bid.
     
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  19. Smirnoffpriest

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    I thought he signed a 3 year contract in the summer?
     
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  20. TheBear

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    He did (not that it means a whole lot these days anyway), But according to the French press he is still unhappy with how the club handled it.
     
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