Jeremy Corbyn

[Mind The Duck]

It's not his policies that are the problem. Not for me anyway. I don't agree with everything he stands for but I agree with more of his polices than I do with the Tories or any of the Tory-lites who were standing for the Labour leadership.

The problem is his polices don't sit well in middle-England where Labour need to win the vote to get back into power. Even a major comeback in Scotland wont see Corbyn entering Downing Street (and that's unlikely to happen anyway).

One of the main reasons I want independence for Scotland is that, due to English voting bias, we're stuck with successive Tory and Tory-lite Governments for the foreseeable.

Can only hope he changes their minds

 

[Mind The Duck]

The same ones as a lot of his Comrades in the Labour party. Why do you think they don't want him as leader?

I already explained why, you quoted it "Socialism of the type Corbyn is proposing does not work, it's pie in the sky."

Pick something he has promoted that is concerning you, an actual thing, not just "socialism"

 

[Null]

I'm surprised the fat **** was elected ...

He's not funny, I hated him on that programme the wrong men's

 

[The Raging Oxter]

Can only hope he changes their minds

Never gonna happen. The Tories, their rich pals and their friends in the media will unleash hell upon him just as they did to the Yes campaigners during the referendum campaign. By the time the next General election comes around Corbyn will be treated as the Bogey Man of middle-England, who wants to be in power so he can tax those "honest and hard working families" to the hilt.

 

[Mind The Duck]

Never gonna happen. The Tories, their rich pals and their friends in the media will unleash hell upon him just as they did to the Yes campaigners during the referendum campaign. By the time the next General election comes around Corbyn will be treated as the Bogey Man of middle-England, who wants to be in power so he can tax those "honest and hard working families" to the hilt.

The Scottish referendum has shown us that the papers are finished

 

[Benvenuto Cellini]

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[The Raging Oxter]

The Scottish referendum has shown us that the papers are finished

Murdoch owns more than newspapers. And they still have enormous influence. Just look at the news: they still read out and discuss the newspaper headlines every night and every morning, despite the fact that sales have fallen dramatically. Newspaper editors realise this and produce headlines that grab people's attention when blithely read out by some twat sitting on a sofa in a warm studio.

And then there's big businesses like Tesco and Asda. Don't forget all the scare stories we had from them about rising prices and taxes etc.

In some ways it'll actually be quite funny watching Labour getting hammered by Tory tactics they themselves were only too happy to embrace during the independence campaign.

 

[Benvenuto Cellini]

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[Mind The Duck]

Murdoch owns more than newspapers. And they still have enormous influence. Just look at the news: they still read out and discuss the newspaper headlines every night and every morning, despite the fact that sales have fallen dramatically. Newspaper editors realise this and produce headlines that grab people's attention when blithely read out by some twat sitting on a sofa in a warm studio.

And then there's big businesses like Tesco and Asda. Don't forget all the scare stories we had from them about rising prices and taxes etc.

In some ways it'll actually be quite funny watching Labour getting hammered by Tory tactics they themselves were only too happy to embrace during the independence campaign.

I think it will be funny watching the SNP try to out-left the Labourski Party

 

[DevAdvocate]

Pick something he has promoted that is concerning you, an actual thing, not just "socialism"

Giving power back to the Unions, re-nationalisation of selected industries, and his stance on World affairs/Politics, there's three. You're welcome.

 

[Archers Road]

If Jeremy Corbyn Is The Limit Of Our Imagination Then We Are Truly ****ed

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Jeremy ****ing Corbyn. Seriously? It’s like finding out your old geography teacher just got made leader of the Labour Party. The one you half remember, and then only because of that time he cried because some kid pissed in his slippers on the school camping trip.

If Jeremy Corbyn is the limit of our political imagination then we are well and truly ****ed. He might well be a nice bloke, but he is Labour to his core and the Labour Party have long been enemies of the kind of mass working class self-organisation that is needed if there is to be any meaningful change in our lives. It is only a sign of how much ground we have lost that Corbyn is considered radical at all. And as for those around him, well there will be no pleasure in watching him be kicked to death by his own side but that is what they will attempt to do. Should he manage to stagger on for the next five years he will be so beaten down and stained by compromises that it will be a very different Corbyn who stands in the next general election.

That doesn’t mean it’s all doom and gloom, not by a long way. Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary Rachel Reeves has gone already and good ****ing riddance. As have her Oxbridge chums Yvette Cooper and Tristram Hunt. But there are vermin waiting in the wings, including the rumoured return of Liam Byrne. Remember him? Probably not, but he’s a ****.

It will be where Corbyn stands on social security that will show the kind of direction that Labour is really about to take. He has rightly condemned the Work Capability Assessment and claims to back groups like DPAC and Boycott Workfare who have taken action against welfare reforms. But he has also voted for Labour’s Compulsory Jobs Guarantee, although admittedly as part of a package of measures. Nice bloke then, shame about the workfare. If Corbyn means what he says then Labour’s policy must be for an unconditional social security system. No more workfare and no more sanctions. And doctors and their patients deciding who is fit for work, not bureacrats at the DWP and Maximus private health sharks.

Since 2010 there has been a resurgence in collective direct action and grassroots campaigning that has won real results. Whether property developers chased out of buying up housing esates and hiking rents or private companies like Atos handing back lucrative contracts in the face of widespread protests, politics has happened on the streets, estates, universities and workplaces. If that energy and anger is now sucked into the Labour Party political machine it will be a disaster. Corbyn himself could have a role to play is stopping that happening, but the temptation of the old left to control and dictate resistance will need to be hard fought.

An alternative is that Corbyn’s victory could ignite exactly the kind of struggle which is needed. That we see this not as the road to a Labour government but as a sign that there is genuine hunger in the UK for change. If half of the people who have attended Corbyn’s rallies had taken militant and disruptive action against workfare, the Bedroom Tax, or any of the raft of welfare reforms then they would have been stopped in their tracks and Iain Duncan Smith would be unemployed. That’s not a whinge by the way, just a reflecton on what could be achieved if this weekend’s events are used as a springboard to create a radical working class movement with real teeth. That cannot happen within the Labour Party, party politics is the road to defeat. But it can happen and then we won’t need a party at all, we can do politics for ourselves.

Please **** off.

 

[Mick O'Toon]

Red Ken was on the wireless this morning and he endorsed him plus Billy Bragg on the platform yesterday,another good bloke and fine musician,Red Wedge is on the way back!

 

[Mind The Duck]

Giving power back to the Unions, re-nationalisation of selected industries, and his stance on World affairs/Politics, there's three. You're welcome.

That's hardly worrying

The UNITED STATES won't even privatise their mail delivery, he wants the railway and energy renationalised. Not a bad idea considering the high rates and fares implemented by the private companies that everyone complains about

I'm pro union so can't see an issue with union power, I doubt it'd be an issue for most labour voters

Internationally you may have a point, he could see the UK fallout with US, Saudi Arabia and Israel... Can we stomach that?

 

[Mick O'Toon]

Internationally you may have a point, he could see the UK fallout with US, Saudi Arabia and Israel... Can we stomach that?

There would be a popular opinion that would be no bad thing,just saying.

 

[A.L.D.O 4.1]

Can you elaborate instead of typing daily mail bylines?

Ha ha hark at Mr Naivety. You think those are Daily Mail bylines? Haven't you seen the national news the last couple of days? Sorry Mindoid but those are BBC bylines and will continue to be mainstream media bylines for the as long as Wurzel Gummidge is the leader of the opposition.

But i shall elaborate for you if you wish.

He has made his party unelectable because he is looked upon as the loony left. He will be portrayed as such in the media, He already is.His beliefs and policies will not sit well with the English electorate. This is an electorate that is moving further to the right with every passing election. Nearly four million of them just voted UKIP ffs, Millions of others voted Tory to stem the purge if the "red" Scottish nationalist scourge. Do you really think Corbyn's policies on immigration, welfare, defence, Ireland and the middle east will bring all those back into the socialist fold? He may see some support in Scotland but when it comes to Westminster elections Scotland doesn't matter.

His party are already imploding. Half the shadow cabinet have resigned and he seems to be struggling to fill spaces. He will in the next couple of days see the MP's supposedly under his leadership vote against his policy and in favour of air strikes in Syria. That will probably the first of many parliamentary revolts.

The Tories will be in power for the foreseeable future because.......see all of the above.

The longer the Tories reign and the more unelectable Labour becomes, the better the chances of a vote for independence.

All very obvious i'd say Mindy.

 

[ERINBLACK]

Ha ha hark at Mr Naivety. You think those are Daily Mail bylines? Haven't you seen the national news the last couple of days? Sorry Mindoid but those are BBC bylines and will continue to be mainstream media bylines for the as long as Wurzel Gummidge is the leader of the opposition.

But i shall elaborate for you if you wish.

He has made his party unelectable because he is looked upon as the loony left. He will be portrayed as such in the media, He already is.His beliefs and policies will not sit well with the English electorate. This is an electorate that is moving further to the right with every passing election. Nearly four million of them just voted UKIP ffs, Millions of others voted Tory to stem the purge if the "red" Scottish nationalist scourge. Do you really think Corbyn's policies on immigration, welfare, defence, Ireland and the middle east will bring all those back into the socialist fold? He may see some support in Scotland but when it comes to Westminster elections Scotland doesn't matter.

His party are already imploding. Half the shadow cabinet have resigned and he seems to be struggling to fill spaces. He will in the next couple of days see the MP's supposedly under his leadership vote against his policy and in favour of air strikes in Syria. That will probably the first of many parliamentary revolts.

The Tories will be in power for the foreseeable future because.......see all of the above.

The longer the Tories reign and the more unelectable Labour becomes, the better the chances of a vote for independence.

All very obvious i'd say Mindy.

Did not read ^^^^^^

 

[stopmeandslapme]

Ha ha hark at Mr Naivety. You think those are Daily Mail bylines? Haven't you seen the national news the last couple of days? Sorry Mindoid but those are BBC bylines and will continue to be mainstream media bylines for the as long as Wurzel Gummidge is the leader of the opposition.

But i shall elaborate for you if you wish.

He has made his party unelectable because he is looked upon as the loony left. He will be portrayed as such in the media, He already is.His beliefs and policies will not sit well with the English electorate. This is an electorate that is moving further to the right with every passing election. Nearly four million of them just voted UKIP ffs, Millions of others voted Tory to stem the purge if the "red" Scottish nationalist scourge. Do you really think Corbyn's policies on immigration, welfare, defence, Ireland and the middle east will bring all those back into the socialist fold? He may see some support in Scotland but when it comes to Westminster elections Scotland doesn't matter.

His party are already imploding. Half the shadow cabinet have resigned and he seems to be struggling to fill spaces. He will in the next couple of days see the MP's supposedly under his leadership vote against his policy and in favour of air strikes in Syria. That will probably the first of many parliamentary revolts.

The Tories will be in power for the foreseeable future because.......see all of the above.

The longer the Tories reign and the more unelectable Labour becomes, the better the chances of a vote for independence.

All very obvious i'd say Mindy.

What's not to like?

 

[Mind The Duck]

Ha ha hark at Mr Naivety. You think those are Daily Mail bylines? Haven't you seen the national news the last couple of days? Sorry Mindoid but those are BBC bylines and will continue to be mainstream media bylines for the as long as Wurzel Gummidge is the leader of the opposition.

But i shall elaborate for you if you wish.

He has made his party unelectable because he is looked upon as the loony left. He will be portrayed as such in the media, He already is.His beliefs and policies will not sit well with the English electorate. This is an electorate that is moving further to the right with every passing election. Nearly four million of them just voted UKIP ffs, Millions of others voted Tory to stem the purge if the "red" Scottish nationalist scourge. Do you really think Corbyn's policies on immigration, welfare, defence, Ireland and the middle east will bring all those back into the socialist fold? He may see some support in Scotland but when it comes to Westminster elections Scotland doesn't matter.

His party are already imploding. Half the shadow cabinet have resigned and he seems to be struggling to fill spaces. He will in the next couple of days see the MP's supposedly under his leadership vote against his policy and in favour of air strikes in Syria. That will probably the first of many parliamentary revolts.

The Tories will be in power for the foreseeable future because.......see all of the above.

The longer the Tories reign and the more unelectable Labour becomes, the better the chances of a vote for independence.

All very obvious i'd say Mindy.

I saw Corbyn elected leader with more votes than Tony Blair got

I saw the right wing establishment press **** themselves

The problem with this Loony Left Leader is that he answers the question put to him and his answers are backed with facts, that's how he easily won the debates at the hustings

4 million morons who probably used to vote tory might find themselves agreeing with Corbyn on Europe

His party needs a blood letting of the suits that made them unelectable in the past two elections and lost Scotland

A left wing labour party will show the SNP up for the new labour clones they are

The Labour Party has to be something other than Tory lite, if it means they lose elections but actually represent the people who vote for them, not the companies or the media who try to influence them, I'd gladly lose every time

I haven't been this happy since Rangers died

 

[ERINBLACK]

SNP are ****ting themselves again.

Fatty Arbuckle will need to suck Murdoch's ring piece again

 

[A.L.D.O 4.1]

I saw Corbyn elected leader with more votes than Tony Blair got

I saw the right wing establishment press **** themselves

The problem with this Loony Left Leader is that he answers the question put to him and his answers are backed with facts, that's how he easily won the debates at the hustings

4 million morons who probably used to vote tory might find themselves agreeing with Corbyn on Europe

His party needs a blood letting of the suits that made them unelectable in the past two elections and lost Scotland

A left wing labour party will show the SNP up for the new labour clones they are

The Labour Party has to be something other than Tory lite, if it means they lose elections but actually represent the people who vote for them, not the companies or the media who try to influence them, I'd gladly lose every time

I haven't been this happy since Rangers died

Did you not see the hundreds of thousands of new members paying their three quid so they could vote Corbyn in?

Did you not see the right wing mainstream media rubbing its hands in glee at the prospect of another Labour shambles akin to that of Michael Foot?

A loony left leader who answers questions is he. I saw him asked SIX times yesterday about his opinion of the IRA and he refused to answer the question put to him.

There cant be a bloodletting of suits. Those suits were democratically elected just a few short months ago and there are more suits than there is elbow patched tweed jackets.

A left wing Labour party, if we ever get one will never be in power fo show anybody up.

If they dont win elections then they are a waste of space. Be as well calling them the lib dems ffs.

Thats because ypu are an idiot who cant see the wid for the trees.