Mafia XI - An Unknown Evil -GAMEOVER Town/Anarchist Victory!

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afcftw said:
Tobes still ignoring my question, dude, why do you think killing both me and gerrez together is the way forward?

If we are telling the truth (and we are) then killing one of us at least proves the other a known innocent. Killing us both just ****s the town. Care to explain dude? Or will you keep ignoring the question?

Even if you don't believe us your taking a non towns route. Very suspicious to me.
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Cockerneys NEVER tel the truth <whistle>
 
afcftw said:
Any reasoning? Or just making sure I stay well out in front? :p

[HASHTAG]#rad[/HASHTAG]
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Just don't believe there isn't something dodgy about you two.

Still think lucas is a bit dodgy and mikey jumping in to defend him has got my attention but they could be some kind of Freemason team I suppose?
 
Gerrez said:
Well done dude, you spotted my confession <applause>

What part of "the medium knows we're innocent" don't you understand? Obviously, the medium isn't going to come out and back us up right now and nor should he. But he will confirm it eventually.
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You're sounding increasingly suspicious...................................................
 
For @Gerrez and @afcftw

Is it possible for your reward to kick in tonight, or will anything new come to light tonight that will prove something about you?

If not then does not lynching them today mean we just talk once more about lynching them tomorrow?
 
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Obi Wan said:
Do you have to do this all week? If so we may have to lynch you even if it is just a mercy kill.
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I believe it ends after today dude <ok>

If not, it will end if one of us dies as there will be no one to report the other.
 
Less Hope Than Neville said:
I know it will be guesswork, but can you draw any conclusions from your experiences of running a game, along with what we learned last night, as to how many teams and bad guys we might be dealing with. The lack of knowledge of this seems to be one of our biggest stumbling blocks.

On ACS - we have ignored him completely today, which is probably just what he would want. We don't know his new role but I suspect it isn't good. Can he be killed again?

JPF is confusing. The tells he left made it more likely he would be taken out by an innocent player, but that isn't the way I read the summary.

As for the team building, is it possible that not all evil players know they are evil yet? Do the evil team(s) grow stronger through recruitment? That was the way I read it, but there must have been at least one more member (the assassin) who already knew they were evil. The fact that the known role is JPF's team is an assassin also points to there being another team with an assassin, or he was taken out by a good assassin.

Not sure why Lucaas was targeted or protected. He was one of the ones who went in heavily on Gerrez and AFC (I think - need to check back). Was that why? Or was it a random kill from someone not worried who was killed as they knew he wasn't on their team? I can't see any reason to protect Lucaas last night unless he was protecting himself without anything else to go on. He has denied protecting himslef, but that would be fairly standard. None of this tells us if he is good or bad though. A few people seem to have evil reads on him so he is one to keep an eye on.
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1. On game mechanics.

I said day 1 i thought that there would either be one team of 4 out of 18 players who were evil or 2 teams of 3. from what we learned last night is that there was two assassins and one holy arrow shooter. That has lead me to think there are at least two evil teams.

We also got the info that ACS was evil but his info was very different from JPF. That led me to think there are more actors in this play than we might think. I think there are more teams some good some bad all out to go do something. the info that ACS joined another team supports this.

2. ON both ACS and JPF

I'm not ignoring ACS but he is off and so far looking back i can't see much from him. now he's risen to come again he's changed his tune a bit so i suspect he was trying to hide out yesterday.

JPF: he was evil but why was hit hit by an assassin. What was the motive there. you are right that obviously his own team didn't kill him so who did? If the second assasin is evil then the other evil team targeted him which then has to bring up the question who did? JPF prod yesterday that caused enough to want to silence him.

who crossed paths with JPF? he listed 4 of us, including me and you and lucaaas? and obi? gerrez? need that post. He clealry was saying vote obi late.

you are right there has to be a tell in there someplace as someone wanted him dead.

3. Team building:

anything is possible. You could have people wanting to be signed up, people not wanting to be signed up, people who don't know or recruiters trying to pick the best people.

We have been told by the note that the skull team is assembling. is this the rising evil? Is this a building team and did the kill in effect block them recruiting last night so they have a day short.

If you do the maths say if they had 2 people 4 days recruits = 6, say they get to end on 4 people. why? we are seeing 3/4 kills day . If they ended up n 4 men on the final day then they'd outnumber the town surely (i predicted 6 left earlier remember)

4. On lucaaas. you are right to look at both sides here. Someone again targeted and someone defended. Why?

Defending can be 3 things. a hunch pick, a definitive read on something or a team play.

Targeting has to be something said. just like JPF. who was lucaaas onto. when lucaaas comes on tonight (he always says he gets it due to not being on during day) Lets hear from him abuot this. who would target you @Lucaaas who would defend you?
 
Tobes said:
[HASHTAG]#convenient[/HASHTAG]
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Well, it might not but that is what Milk suggested when he gave us the new words last night. and trust me, I want these words to stop more than anyone else does <laugh>

Dude
 
Mikey said:
Since my vote for IBWT seems wasted I shall change to Tobes.
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Based on what exactly?

I'm intrigued to hear why you think there's a more tangible reason to lynch me than the chuckle brothers, or Lucaas with his bodyguard?

You usually play this game in a very analytical way and yet your earlier summations lacked your usual dissection and appeared to just reach a somewhat nonsensical conclusion that you then failed to elaborate on when I questioned your logic.

Then 2 hours later, hey presto you're voting for me.
 
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