classless club, they should just accept that we was the better team on the day and that they was lucky to have had a point after underestimating us. it would be a disgrace if the red card gets rescinded
Chelsea to appeal over red card
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If Courtois isn't clattering in to him then his touch is better, clear red, he prevented a clear goalscoring opportunity.
Appeal failed as all those without one eye knew it would and the correct decision.
Like I said I'd be very surprised if that one was overturned, now suck it up Jose dear!............
Jose is not bitter at all
http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/11/arsen...arneiro-after-jose-mourinho-incident-5338281/
http://metro.co.uk/2015/08/11/arsen...arneiro-after-jose-mourinho-incident-5338281/
He will end up with his own players turning against him if he is not careful, Im sure with no wins in pre season and lost against Arsenal and in Europe and should have lost against us that some of his players are just playing for the money and fed up of Jose and his bizarre ways.....I have never known a team who won the league going on a long losing run pre season or not like Chelsea are on......
He does it to protect his players, after all, despite it being 100% a stupid and rash decision by Courtois, it's Mourinho taking the flakLike I said buddy, he's simply and sneakily deflecting attention away from his own inadequacies. He's managed his club badly all summer, highlighted by their poor performances.
No signings at all, no wins in 5 pre-season games, players not being trained effectively and now his latest arrogant blunder was to show a decent team little respect. It cost him and could have cost him more of course.
Not once did he mention our name in post match interviews, all he did do was blindly grope for his stock excuses, 'it was all the refs fault'. Poor pompous Jose has been sussed, special in victory but completely blind in defeat.
We cuffed him in the moolies on Saturdayand it hurt like hell
He may well have done at some point but now, to 'save' his blushes in a passive aggressive but blatant manner, he blamed Mike Oliver directly for the poor result.
'I can not say, I'll get into trouble', bollox, 'you have pundits, let them say', passive bullsh1t. The pundits have siad, and so has a revue board and they say Penalty, Red card, end of, grow up.
What does Morinho do next, attacks his medical staff for attending a feigned injury. Morinho knew Hazard was milking it in order to get a booking, the ref knew it too.
'Hazard was ok, he was tired' and you forget to mention Jose, rolling around holding his face in feigned pain, if I recall correctly
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A physio can go onto the field of play following a referees request or can be signaled on by a player in serious distress. Only from an obvious and serious head injury can they make a decision to go on without the referees approval. At the time of the incident Hazard was rolling about holding his face and feigning distress.
'If they're on the bench they must know the game' Morinho says,
but what 'game' is he referring to. I think we all know the game Hazard was playing, lets feign pain to get a player booked. We saw it, the ref ignored it and Morinho knew it, unfortunately the only people Hazard managed to convince that he was seriously hurt were his medical team. He rolled around so well that they thought he was seriously injured and went on to the field of play to assist.
and the beat goes on as now we hear Costa, who is struggling with his fitness, has been allowed to go on a mini 'break' to Ibiza. He left immediately after the game to 'get over' the result, what a joke.
Morinho cant deflect the FACT that he is in trouble and he is in trouble because he is not in control of Chelsea as much as he'd like. He is not in control of transfers, non made this window, he is not in control of his team, no victories in 6 games (5 friendlies) his players aren't fit and ready for the season ahead and Morinho is not in control of them as much as he'd like, 'I need a break after playing one game' says Costa, 'OK' says Morinho on his knees.
Morinhos in trouble, what's the odds he's gone by Christmas? it could happen if Chelsea don't start acting like Champions and soon.
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And what is the outcome of that? Are any of the layers taking the heat for it? or is it Mourinho?
This is what he does, he deflects criticism away from his players onto himself. His team should be getting the flak for their performance, but they're not, he is. He's done it his whole managerial career, he'd blame a blind mans dog in public if he thought it would protect his players. Ask yourself, who would you prefer to work for? a boss that criticizes you publicly, or one that deflects criticism away from you? Which one would you try hardest for? The problem with football fans is they don't understand players, they may run to you for the adulation, but the person they play for is their manager.
Do you really think he gives two flying ****s what the world thinks of him? His job is to win things, and by taking a look at his record it's pretty clear he knows what he's doing. Personally I find him far more amusing than annoying.
This is football these days, it's a business and money has no honour, I don't particularly like what he does, but I can see why he does it, the same as I could with Ferguson and his constant haranguing of refs.
This is what he does, he deflects criticism away from his players onto himself. His team should be getting the flak for their performance, but they're not, he is. He's done it his whole managerial career, he'd blame a blind mans dog in public if he thought it would protect his players. Ask yourself, who would you prefer to work for? a boss that criticizes you publicly, or one that deflects criticism away from you? Which one would you try hardest for? The problem with football fans is they don't understand players, they may run to you for the adulation, but the person they play for is their manager.
Do you really think he gives two flying ****s what the world thinks of him? His job is to win things, and by taking a look at his record it's pretty clear he knows what he's doing. Personally I find him far more amusing than annoying.
This is football these days, it's a business and money has no honour, I don't particularly like what he does, but I can see why he does it, the same as I could with Ferguson and his constant haranguing of refs.
Big Ern
I find him amusing too but, I don't think this time he is deflecting as you say. I think this time he is truly annoyed and it manifest itself on Saturday.
Jumping about on the touchline, blaming his med team on live TV for attending an injury, passively blaming the ref for his teams poor result and performance, isn't deflecting criticism in my opinion big Ern, it seems like a pressure valve has been opened and his frustration has poured out. I think a stung Morinho has over reacted to things he'd have made a joke over before, but now he is not in control of things. I think, he thinks he needs to stamp his authority on things in order to establish control but, he is upset and is not acting as rationally as he usually does.
He's irritated and annoyed and his reactions this week, imo, were not calculated but spontaneous outbursts and not the reactions of a man in total control of his own destiny but of a man irritated and annoyed.
Its how I see Jose at this time Big Ern and we're discussing this here and now because the thread is about Morinhos appeal.
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...h-his-treatment-of-eva-carneiro-a2487671.html
http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/...ans-to-remove-doctor-eva-carneiro-from-bench/
http://soccerlens.com/psg-van-der-wiel-chelsea-transfer/174076/
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I find him amusing too but, I don't think this time he is deflecting as you say. I think this time he is truly annoyed and it manifest itself on Saturday.
Jumping about on the touchline, blaming his med team on live TV for attending an injury, passively blaming the ref for his teams poor result and performance, isn't deflecting criticism in my opinion big Ern, it seems like a pressure valve has been opened and his frustration has poured out. I think a stung Morinho has over reacted to things he'd have made a joke over before, but now he is not in control of things. I think, he thinks he needs to stamp his authority on things in order to establish control but, he is upset and is not acting as rationally as he usually does.
He's irritated and annoyed and his reactions this week, imo, were not calculated but spontaneous outbursts and not the reactions of a man in total control of his own destiny but of a man irritated and annoyed.
Its how I see Jose at this time Big Ern and we're discussing this here and now because the thread is about Morinhos appeal.
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...h-his-treatment-of-eva-carneiro-a2487671.html
http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/...ans-to-remove-doctor-eva-carneiro-from-bench/
http://soccerlens.com/psg-van-der-wiel-chelsea-transfer/174076/
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Thing is if a player is injured, or pretends to be how are medical staff 50 metres away supposed to know what is wrong? We've had several players dying over the last year when playing football and rugby, the medical needs of players are far above that of an egoistical moron on the sidelines urging a player to get up.
It's about time somebody has a word in his shell like and to tell him to shut the **** up
It's about time somebody has a word in his shell like and to tell him to shut the **** up
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As far as the Dr goes, he's right, she did act rather naively, surely it's up to the referee to bring on the physio. It's his prerogative to remove her from the bench, if he sees fit. And, once again, it has completely removed the team from the criticism and placed all the flak on Mourinho's shoulders.
As to the reaction of opposing fans, you would think she'd been flogged to death, but she hasn't been 'sacked' at all, like most are trying to suggest, she's still employed by Chelsea in the same position she was in, she's just no longer on the bench. Her income hasn't been affected one bit.
Football isn't a popularity contest, it's about winning football matches and all the statistics say he's one of the best at it. Take a look at his history, he's always been like it, and it works for him, it's made him probably the greatest club manager of all time, he would be mad to change it.
As to the reaction of opposing fans, you would think she'd been flogged to death, but she hasn't been 'sacked' at all, like most are trying to suggest, she's still employed by Chelsea in the same position she was in, she's just no longer on the bench. Her income hasn't been affected one bit.
Football isn't a popularity contest, it's about winning football matches and all the statistics say he's one of the best at it. Take a look at his history, he's always been like it, and it works for him, it's made him probably the greatest club manager of all time, he would be mad to change it.
Big Em, the medical profession doesn't agree with you
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...eva-carneiro-backed-6240797?ICID=FB_mirror_MF
The PFA have also released a statement on the issue, insisting the existing medical protocol in place should be followed.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...eva-carneiro-backed-6240797?ICID=FB_mirror_MF
The PFA have also released a statement on the issue, insisting the existing medical protocol in place should be followed.
Did you bother to read that statement? there's a in it that you seem to have ignored "The player and the referee are the initial judges'.
As for the medical profession, WOW, her profession comes out in her defence against the vaudeville villain, what a newsworthy shock, almost as shocking as the news that the sky is blue.
He wasn't injured, the ref knew it, the player knew it, Mourinho knew it, the crowd knew it, yet she caused her team to go down to 9 men.
Is it an over-reaction, possibly, but not half as much as the hypocritical reaction to it by opposing fans, she hasn't been fired, removed from her position, fined or even lost any wages over it. At the end of the day she gets paid a ****load of money as head of a medical team for a football club, and she ****ed up on the football side of her job.
As for the medical profession, WOW, her profession comes out in her defence against the vaudeville villain, what a newsworthy shock, almost as shocking as the news that the sky is blue.
He wasn't injured, the ref knew it, the player knew it, Mourinho knew it, the crowd knew it, yet she caused her team to go down to 9 men.
Is it an over-reaction, possibly, but not half as much as the hypocritical reaction to it by opposing fans, she hasn't been fired, removed from her position, fined or even lost any wages over it. At the end of the day she gets paid a ****load of money as head of a medical team for a football club, and she ****ed up on the football side of her job.
Yes I read, did you bother to notice that the player appeared injured, the medical staff have a moral and professional duty to look after the people she has a duty to care for!!
The problem is that the player was acting, he was trying to cheat so our players get booked, he has a track record of this with Swansea , the last time it was kicking the ball boy, Saturday it was trying to cheat!
She didn't **** up, what has happened is that this particular overpaid pansy has been shown up as cheat, and his manager has been shown to have absolutely no class, the only thing he is special at is being a ****
The problem is that the player was acting, he was trying to cheat so our players get booked, he has a track record of this with Swansea , the last time it was kicking the ball boy, Saturday it was trying to cheat!
She didn't **** up, what has happened is that this particular overpaid pansy has been shown up as cheat, and his manager has been shown to have absolutely no class, the only thing he is special at is being a ****
Can you bold the part where it says the decision is the teams medical officer? no? why? is it because it isn't in there. So if it isn't in there why dod she do it? because she ****ed up, for no proper medical reason she caused her employers to be a man down when they had already lost one. Yes, it was because of Hazard being a twat in the mould of Cheato Flores, (a player cheered by many a swan fan) but, for the last time, Mourinho isn't going to criticise his own players.
As to class, what good is it if it costs you titles? none at all, which is why none of the big managers have any, in fact it's desperately short in professional sports
As to class, what good is it if it costs you titles? none at all, which is why none of the big managers have any, in fact it's desperately short in professional sports
Tell me how can a doctor assess a patient from circa 50 meters away? She made a decision based on what she had in front of her, by the looks of things an injured player, okay with the benefit of hindsight it was the wrong decision, the problem is that she has no such benefit.
You tell me what is more important the player or the game?
You tell me what is more important the player or the game?
The article above suggests that video footage showed that in the moments before the Chelsea medical staff ran on to the pitch, referee Michael Oliver twice turned to the bench after Hazard went down and signalled for the pair to come on.
So the referee was concerned for the players welfare, the medical staff were concerned for the players welfare - and Jose Mourinho didn't give a **** for the players welfare.