The Breakfast Debate

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ristac said:
I did say yes received, but while on the subject...

I never thought for a moment you would send me your address, exactly for the reasons stated by Chippy. In all honesty I wish you hadn't sent me it because if you do receive anything nasty or a nuisance visit then I am going to be a suspect.

I won't and haven't done anything with the address, I have clicked leave conversation, if a moderator would like to access my messages to see that it has been deleted they are more than welcome to do so. Yes I could have copied it down but you have my assurance that I haven't.

I don't want you to send proof, I don't want to have forum battles with you, I will try my hardest to ignore your posts that I find annoying, if you could politely do the same this forum will be a lot less cluttered <ok>
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Thanks for sending it to me before deleting it. I hope he likes pizzas.
 
WhitesinDoha said:
Morning all, was disappointed in the result in the end but massive improvement from last season, the players working as a unit, thought we could of compressed abit more in midfield, but Mowatt and Cook got through mountain of work, this month is going to be a tough one, get through this unbeaten and i think we shall take off and do well this season.
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Evening Doha, well said pal. Pulling together in same direction...
 
ristac said:
Morning all - I felt Bellusci played well and I totally agree with Doc in regards to what this 19 year old can bring to the table, Bellusci and Bamba together give us the experience we need. Where would it leave Cooper if he is going to be behind Bellusci and a 19 year old loanee?

I was quite pleased with the performance, I am sure we will play better but saying that we didn't play badly against a fancied team. Weakest player by a mile for us was Wood, I hope it was just lack of match sharpness, it was a worry that he couldn't head a ball despite his height.

I thought before a ball was kicked we were good enough for around an 8th place and my own personal opinion on that hasn't changed. In all a big improvement on the first game of last season and still an improvement on the last day of last season.

I see Sam Byram got the official man of the match award from the sponsors.
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Wotzzzup ristac, Don't know much about the 19yo centre back, but seems Rosler knows what he is doing. Perhaps may want to sign him permanently after season long loan?

Everything around ER is an improvement.

Mentality

Fitness

feel good factor

Accounts

Management

shots on target

Imagine Ross in our starting line up....
 
ristac said:
Morning all - I felt Bellusci played well and I totally agree with Doc in regards to what this 19 year old can bring to the table, Bellusci and Bamba together give us the experience we need. Where would it leave Cooper if he is going to be behind Bellusci and a 19 year old loanee?

I was quite pleased with the performance, I am sure we will play better but saying that we didn't play badly against a fancied team. Weakest player by a mile for us was Wood, I hope it was just lack of match sharpness, it was a worry that he couldn't head a ball despite his height.

I thought before a ball was kicked we were good enough for around an 8th place and my own personal opinion on that hasn't changed. In all a big improvement on the first game of last season and still an improvement on the last day of last season.

I see Sam Byram got the official man of the match award from the sponsors.
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I thought Bamba got motm?
 
Mr Wolves-White said:
Morning all

Very Happy with Saturday's result and it just shows what you can do when you've got a coach who knows what he's doing unlike Hockawally.

Yup let's the the Spurs Kid on loan for the season. In the end he'll be a giant success and we sign him or he another Andros Townsend and he will never darken our door again. It really is 50/50.

Also we need a LB
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Evening Wolves, Are you not a Taylor fan at lb?
 
Marcos Barber said:
Afternoon Elland

I think Bellusci gets a hard time for very good reason. Used to play Centre Half myself to a reasonable standard and I will tell you three things he did (or didn't do) that I would have got murdered for at Under 18 level never mind adults. First half Boyd runs straight across our area running through half hearted tackles and ends in Kightly narrowly missing - that is Bellusci and Bamba territory to rule. Shortly before the goal, he wins a tackle on the edge of our area and turns to bring the ball away with the man behind him. If he pushes the ball to the right and steps across the man only two things can happen - the striker gives up or fouls him. Instead he ran back towards the centre letting the striker come back at him, pull and tug resulting in a free kick to them on the angle of our box - that is schoolboy and the goal? Well sorry, you cannot possibly have had a good game if you allow a striker a free header 6 yards from goal. Minimum he has to jump with him and use body strength to sap the power and direction that Vokes can get - to crouch down and raise your arm in protection is just awful - personally would never pick him again.

Berardi did ok if you like a full back to jocky and offer the winger the outside all the time but he invites pressure by doing this and plays on the back foot. Compare him with Darikwa who I thought was a beast (reminded me of a young Micah Richards) - he pressed Dallas and Taylor as far up the pitch as possible constantly, I think he would have been a terrific signing for us and would have made Byram even better being pushed up the pitch from the player behind him.

Antennuci, terrific goal but would be twice the player if he varied his decisions a bit - would never offer him a goal target bonus because he plays for himself. Ok, he got a great goal but won't every game and if he opts to shoot or hold the ball instead of passing all the time, he also gives back possession an awful lot.

Doukarra - just don't get what he is supposed to have about him?

Thought we played well overall - lots of neat and tidy stuff and creating 15 chances in a game hopefully bodes well.

Think Dallas will be immense for us. Adeyemi will also be very good. Would like to judge Wood after 10 games - has a really good touch for such a big guy but a bit of a pussy in the air and either lacks confidence, fitness or both.

Finally, if I could have one player from Burnley (apart from Darikwa) I really liked Jones in the centre of their midfield. Quietly efficient and kept things ticking all the time - probably exactly what we need to go with some of our young guns!!
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Thing is about Doukara, he looks like he should be good. His control is about as good as Carlton Palmer's
 
chippy / glory said:
Yeah just imagine. Being held to ransom every window... Crap game after game, getting fatter and doing less each week... And only taking it seriously when it's contract talk time......... No thanks...
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Half watching on LUTV to see how Murphy, Erwin and Sloth are looking, and to see what we have coming through. 1-1 at present, young Walters has blazed a couple where he should have worked the keeper. First teamers looking comfortable without standing out, Erwin showing flashes. One Cameron Stewart playing well on their left and set up their goal - spit.
 
Marcos Barber said:
Afternoon Elland

I think Bellusci gets a hard time for very good reason. Used to play Centre Half myself to a reasonable standard and I will tell you three things he did (or didn't do) that I would have got murdered for at Under 18 level never mind adults. First half Boyd runs straight across our area running through half hearted tackles and ends in Kightly narrowly missing - that is Bellusci and Bamba territory to rule. Shortly before the goal, he wins a tackle on the edge of our area and turns to bring the ball away with the man behind him. If he pushes the ball to the right and steps across the man only two things can happen - the striker gives up or fouls him. Instead he ran back towards the centre letting the striker come back at him, pull and tug resulting in a free kick to them on the angle of our box - that is schoolboy and the goal? Well sorry, you cannot possibly have had a good game if you allow a striker a free header 6 yards from goal. Minimum he has to jump with him and use body strength to sap the power and direction that Vokes can get - to crouch down and raise your arm in protection is just awful - personally would never pick him again.

Berardi did ok if you like a full back to jocky and offer the winger the outside all the time but he invites pressure by doing this and plays on the back foot. Compare him with Darikwa who I thought was a beast (reminded me of a young Micah Richards) - he pressed Dallas and Taylor as far up the pitch as possible constantly, I think he would have been a terrific signing for us and would have made Byram even better being pushed up the pitch from the player behind him.

Antennuci, terrific goal but would be twice the player if he varied his decisions a bit - would never offer him a goal target bonus because he plays for himself. Ok, he got a great goal but won't every game and if he opts to shoot or hold the ball instead of passing all the time, he also gives back possession an awful lot.

Doukarra - just don't get what he is supposed to have about him?

Thought we played well overall - lots of neat and tidy stuff and creating 15 chances in a game hopefully bodes well.

Think Dallas will be immense for us. Adeyemi will also be very good. Would like to judge Wood after 10 games - has a really good touch for such a big guy but a bit of a pussy in the air and either lacks confidence, fitness or both.

Finally, if I could have one player from Burnley (apart from Darikwa) I really liked Jones in the centre of their midfield. Quietly efficient and kept things ticking all the time - probably exactly what we need to go with some of our young guns!!
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Marcos. A fair summary. I agree that Bellusci's biggest weakness is the needless fouls he gives away at the edge of the penalty area. I also don't think he is as bad as people make out.
Yes he will make mistake, that's why he is a championship defender. I'm still of the opinion the there goal was due to naive defending out wide. That cross should never have been allowed to come in.
Also thought Darikwa looked good but he got caught out of position at least twice, letting the ball sail over his head to Dallas. Now Dallas looks a fantastic buy. Liked him a lot.
 
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