The Breakfast Debate
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First of all you have just shot yourself in the foot she helped more council tenants buy the own homes so she helped the working class.She stood up to Argentina over the Falklands which sent a message out you don't mess with us!I believe she did give us back our self respect whether you like this or not
Scargill brought the miners out without a ballot big mistake and he brought them out with summer approaching another big mistake .He was to full of himself .He knew that if he had had a ballot they would have voted against strike action like they did in Nottingham
First she got rid of the survay/patrol boats leading Argentina to believe we didn't care about the Falklands,they wouldn't have ever invaded if she hadn't done that,this then led to a war which has cost our country billions and billions of pounds to protect and 1500 hundred people died in the war,all to save a few quid on a patrol boat.And you think this is a success and she did well
I'm staying out of it this time!
yea I'm not keen to get involved, it can only end badly
Helped the working class by letting them buy council houses for less than market value and then not replacing the socail housing!!!!!..
Please explain how that helped
A) the working class who didnt buy at the time, or all those that followed.
B) the taxpayer who in effect had houses they owned sold at less than they were ever worth.
I can then tell you how this scam earned speculators a fortune and still is.........
and
How we are now paying billions a year in housing benefit to private landlords because the state has no social housing. The current idiot is repeating this stupidity .
She caused the bloody Falklands war by removing the garrison. Replacing it with a survey ship and then inviting the Argentinians to invade by provoking them whilst letting them know the place was undefended. Why did she do this? Because she was 15 points behind in the polls and by having a fight against a poorly equipped and trained conscript army we were always going to win the unnessecary war and she could wrap herself in the flag and play at being a victourious general....
The 82 election was won with the blood of thousands of innocent men on both sides..........
Before you say something that causes you more trouble than you can begin to imagine shut up and at least try to see it from other peoples perspective.
FFS Glory will you stop pointing out the mistakes in the arguments and just accept she made everyone house owners and defended some Island off the coast of Scotland.
[except all the miners and people who worked in the main British industries ie cars,steel,ship building,truck building,Aerospace ect who all lost there jobs and houses as they could no longer pay the mortgages.]
[except all the miners and people who worked in the main British industries ie cars,steel,ship building,truck building,Aerospace ect who all lost there jobs and houses as they could no longer pay the mortgages.]
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Not only was the Falklands undefended, the people who lived there were not considered to be UK citizens, and had to apply for a visa to visit the UK.
Glory has already covered the issue of the council house sales, but let me add that this was Thatcher once again selling off the country's assets to prop up a government that was not balancing the books - and by a long shot too.
You're probably thinking I'm simply making a political point without substance when I mention the mismanagement of the economy, but let me give you an example that will open the eyes of those who don't realise just how bad it was:
When I decided to buy my first house in 1982, the mortgage rate was 17%. Yes, 17%. Not only that, but you had to have been saving with a lender for 2 years to get considered for a mortgage. As I wanted to move quicker than that, I found a single branch building society that would give me a mortgage - at 19%. Thanks, Maggie.
Tell me why these interest rates were good for the country, Mike.
Glory has already covered the issue of the council house sales, but let me add that this was Thatcher once again selling off the country's assets to prop up a government that was not balancing the books - and by a long shot too.
You're probably thinking I'm simply making a political point without substance when I mention the mismanagement of the economy, but let me give you an example that will open the eyes of those who don't realise just how bad it was:
When I decided to buy my first house in 1982, the mortgage rate was 17%. Yes, 17%. Not only that, but you had to have been saving with a lender for 2 years to get considered for a mortgage. As I wanted to move quicker than that, I found a single branch building society that would give me a mortgage - at 19%. Thanks, Maggie.
Tell me why these interest rates were good for the country, Mike.
Black Wednesday... I remember the day we fell out of the Exchange Rate Mechanism ( pre cursor to the euro) yes the mad bitch took us into it! Interest rates hit 17% at lunch time( badger lament chancellor of the exchequer) was singing je non regret in his bath tub at the time. I like millions of othe home owners were wondering what happens if you hand the building society the house keys.....
In 1992 I had the fortune of bumping into lamont, he had been parachuted into Harrogate to win the safe Tory seat of Harrogate... Only he didn't... I was political at the time and bumped into him as he was leaving the count and just as he was being interviewed for the BBC I heckled him and suggested he **** off. I am sure someone could find the newspaper piece on the web that says he was run out of town by a baying mob of students.... Not true..... It was just me.
If you were part of the upper class and had savings the investment income was more than good...
Expect Mike to impersonate Marie Antoinette and say let the poor eat cake.
There is a world of difference between mistakes and downright inaccuracy. We all make mistakes!