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Daily Racing Thread Thursday 23rd. July 2015

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  1. attivo

    attivo Well-Known Member

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    Thursday's Meetings

    Wolverhampton
    A/W 7 Races 2:00-5:15p.m.
    Worcester
    N/H 7 Races 2:10-5:25p.m.
    Sandown
    Flat 6 Races 2:20-5:05p.m.
    Newbury (E)
    Flat 7 Races 5:30-8:45p.m.
    Limerick (E)
    N/H 7 Races 5:35-8:50p.m.
    Doncaster (E)
    Flat 7 Races 5:45-9:00p.m.
    Leopardstown
    Flat 7 Races 5:50-9:05p.m.

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    Good Luck <ok>
     
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  2. stick

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    Interesting runner in Sandowns 4:00
     
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  3. Ron

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    Good luck. We don't don't know how good Classic Villager is but he should see off the rest
     
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  4. Ron

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    Leopardstown 20.15 Sanus Per Aquam looks a certainty. No prices though. Will be odds on no doubt. Evens or above must be a bet.
     
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  5. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    Best of luck
     
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  6. Grecian Mick

    Grecian Mick Well-Known Member

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    Good luck with SQUIRE Stick. Are we looking at a wheelbarrow job?
     
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  7. Ron

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    Bet365 going evs - get in quick. All others go odds on.
     
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  8. QuarterMoonII

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    A quick look at the form says that Classic Villager won last time at Lingfield (but not on turf) and has been raised nine pounds for that. His best form on turf was second in a maiden at Beverley last year. The bottom weight Indelible Ink was fifth over course and distance two races ago but is still a maiden. The principal danger to Squire might be Zambeasy, raised two pounds for a length second last time over twelve furlongs and third over course and distance the time before – he looks to be the only front-runner in the race.
     
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  9. SaveTheHumans

    SaveTheHumans Well-Known Member

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    Squire remains on 79 but drops into a class 4 tomorrow. What time are the briefcases being opened stick/don?

    All the best to you both and may he bring home the bacon and get home safe and sound. Enjoy the day.
     
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  10. gazboy

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    Leopardstown 19.25 might help!!
     
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  11. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member
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    Sorry. And I wasn't pissed. Eye sight must be deteriorating - drawn to the bottom line <doh>
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  12. stick

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    Worth a decent bet at 8/1 I would say. The big danger for me is PRESBURG who is back down to the sort of mark you would it expect it to be winning off. Just hoping that the Ascot excuses were valid and he runs a proper race again tomorrow. Sandown suits him so we have to be very hopeful.
     
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  13. Bluesky9

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    A difficult one to call tomorrow Stick on account of Indelible Ink, who if you will excuse the pun could be a blot on the handicap. I think Squire must be placed and at 8-1 is an EW price for many. I am happy he is down in grade as my view is he could take a grade 3 if it's weakish for the grade and the race runs to suit, but he has little to spare. At Grade 4 however I think he is at the top of that bracket and so will have a chance in any race he contests. His vulnerability in the grade is only to an improver and I think a mark of 75 could seriously underestimate Indelible Ink by a good 10lb.

    I think you need disregard his last run for whatever reason but the run before that which was his seasonal debut is too much to ignore for the following reasons. The horse was clearly undercooked as Stoute horses do not get sent off 33-1 unless everyone knows it's not there today. Despite this the horse finished just over a length down in 5th place.

    Those in front are now rated in finishing order
    Dartmouth 82 and won a grade 2 by four lengths off this mark
    Putting Green 83 contesting grade 2 at Royal Ascot
    Soluable 82 third in grade 4
    Richard of Yorke 87 fourth ontesting grade 2
    Indelible Ink Runs from 75 tomorrow in the race in question, a grade 4
    Istinfaar 82 contesting grade 3
    Rare Rhythm 89 contesting grade 3
    Arcano Gold 87 contesting grade 3
    Counterproof 75 Last in a grade 4
    Duretto 79 contesting grade 4

    I have had a decent bet on Indelible Ink but covered the stake with Squire as at 8-1 you are not risking too much to do so. I belive one or the other will win.
     
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  14. NassauBoard

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    I don't like being picky (I do actually - but hey), but its not grade, it is class. Secondly, class is but prizemoney, so I'd prefer to look at the handicap bands for the race.
     
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  15. Ron

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    Although it has been said that Squire takes a while to wind up, I have noticed in at least a couple of races that, when asked, there is an immediate short burst of acceleration which indicates that he is better than he has shown so far. I'm fairly certain that,.given a strong pace against good horses, he will be capable of better form than he has shown so far. His last run can be ignored (you only need to watch the race to see why). Some horses will run well against good horses but run equally well against lesser horses, probably because they are capable of a faster gallop but are tapped for speed at the end of a race. I think Squire may be one of those horses. He has the ability, he has one change of gear, he stays, he battles and, due to the way he runs/is ridden, will always get himself into a battle at the end of his races, whatever class he runs in. Whilst running in class 4 races, this keeps his handicap mark down. Therefore he looks to me to be one who, at some stage, could run a cracker in a big handicap on a galloping track over a stiff 10+ furlongs or 12f race. We have not seen the best of him yet, I'm sure.
     
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  16. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    What have you done to the rest of the field, Stick, me old love?!? A third of the original line-up are now non-runners! Not surprisingly everything has been shortened up considerably as a result.

    Nothing for me today but I expect to be wearing my betting boots, punting pants and wagering waistcoat on Saturday. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no more...
     
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  17. Cyclonic

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    Good luck with the horse guys. Just a thought, is it possible that Squire might be coming to the end of his campaign?
     
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  18. Exotic Dancer

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    Some of these prices may have changed slightly and are not confident picks in most cases but as i'm heading along tonight i thought it only fair to go through the card - can't be that hard can it? :)

    Limerick
    5.35 Little Heart 3/1 2pts win
    6.05 Duckweed 5/1 1pt ew
    6.35 No Kidding 5/1 1pt ew
    7.15 The Game Changer 4/5 5pts win (NAP)
    7.45 Icy Reply 11/8 1pt win
    8.15 Wandering Aengus 8/1 0.5pt win
    8.50 Outwit 11/2 1pt ew

    Leopardstown
    6.20 Korbus 11/2 1pt ew
    7.25 Taking Libertys 0.5pt ew
    8.00 Pulman Brown 4/1 1pt win

    Golf Canadian Open
    Jason Day 9/1 1pt win

    best of luck all.
     
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  19. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    The Goodwood Executive must be delighted by the fact that Mr Henderson has made 2 entries re its opening day next Tuesday (is there a better sight in racing, incidentally, than Mr Henderson in his Panama?!? Answers on a postcard please to the usual address). I was going to add its ‘glorious’ news but I see the name ‘Glorious’ Goodwood has been ditched and we are now to call the meeting, and I swear I’m not making this up, ‘The Qatar Goodwood Festival’! Yeah...right!
     
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  20. OddDog

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    Sacrilege with a capital "S". How dare they? A monstrosity of a name <doh>
     
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