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  1. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    His endorsement of Benteke,
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    He is not an excellent defender end of.

    He hot destroyed by west ham
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Fowler dared to say benteke stretches teams and is mobile.

    Jimmy knows more about it than God.

    Jimmy thinks cos villa played one way that be teke can only playboy way and that Belgium are a great technical side thus proving it.
     
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  4. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    He actually is though. And only 19. But I suppose he doesn't run up and down the wing, taking on players and getting assists, he must be rubbish?
     
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  5. So, as Jimmy got a issue with the 'stretches teams' or 'mobile' part? Or both...?

    He does stretch teams. He is good in the air and pacey so do defences drop deep or push up high? His mobility isn't the best but anyone that's been watching Balotelli this year will think Benteke moves more than Suarez, Tevez and Rooney combined!!!
     
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  6. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    The bit highlighted in bold pretty much makes the renders the rest of post invalid. He's not mobile. He's not even a proven goal scorer ffs.

    But I'll be sure to blindly follow ex-players,pundits opinions in future.

    #SheepMentality
     
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  7. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Not really - he doesn't move more than Balotelli. Nor does he run in behind the defence.

    If fans have a problem with Mario, then don't expect anything different from Benteke - UNLESS we play to their strengths. <ok>
     
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  8. But he does make movement in and around the box when we have possession! Aka, he moves more than Mario!
     
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  9. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Fair point but worth noting that's only when the ball is lumped into the box or we cross - 2 things which we don't do.
     
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  10. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    Jimmy will never be convinced. Even if Benteke runs the lengths of the pitch for all 3 goals in a CL final hat trick for us.
     
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  11. mighty_stevie_g

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    Ok, so based on the below Benteke & Mario's goal return is virtually identical (and i have actually taken his liverpool stats out which would make him a whole lot worse) but to you - Mario is highly talented, technical, brilliant, we should play to his strengths etc.

    Benteke is just a lump


    Benteke
    2007–2009 Genk 10 (1)
    2009–2011 Standard Liège 18 (3)
    2009–2010Kortrijk (loan) 34 (15)
    2010–2011Mechelen (loan) 18 (6)
    2011–2012 Genk 37 (19)
    2012– Aston Villa 88 (42)

    Mario
    2006–2007 Lumezzane 2 (0)
    2007–2010 Inter Milan 59 (20)
    2010–2013 Manchester City 54 (20)
    2013–2014 Milan 43 (26)

    Where's the logic Jimmy?
     
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  12. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Genuine question - have you actually these two players play? And I'm not talking about highlight packages, or MOTD etc - I'm talking about watching full matches, at different levels at different clubs?

    Mario is by far a better footballer and can offer a lot more.

    But the point I'm making is that if we don't play to Mario's strengths i.e have runners playing close to him and making runs beyond him, then what gives you the confidence that Rodgers will do the same for Benteke?

    What if Rodgers plays Benteke as the lone striker and completely isolates him?

    Either way - I don't want either player. We're simply replacing Mario with another, less talented version of Mario.
     
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  13. mighty_stevie_g

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    I watch a lot of football mate from all over, just don't feel the need to mention that I do every other post - yes I've seen them both play and IMO benteke will offer so much more to us.

    They simply do not play the same game so saying its a like for like is ridiculous.

    Give me a focused professional with the attitude to go with it over a ****ing celeb wannabe any day
     
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  14. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Out of curiousity, what will Benteke offer us other than physical presence up top?

    Give me talent over attitude any day. <ok>
     
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    If you think that is all Benteke is then I have to question whether you've in fact seen him play?

    He has great ball control, gets his head up to link up play, plays with intelligence (does the right thing as opposed to sturridge and Mario's shoot at all costs) loves a little flick or 2, wins everything, strong as **** and most importantly - he knows where the back of the net is!

    Genuinely can't see why people (its not just you) are so concerned about this signing if it happens.

    You can have all the talent in the world, don't apply it right and you'll fade away VERY quickly - see Ronaldinho
     
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  16. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Must be watching a different player - his ball control is not great, it's actually quite poor and he's not intelligent. Agree - his ability to play as a target man is good but that's down to playing long balls or crossing - 2 things which we don't do.

    But it's something we'll have to agree to disagree on. <ok>

    Re. your last point - give me Ronaldinho at his pomp for just one season than 9 seasons of Benteke. We almost won the league thanks to Suarez and he was only here for a few years.

    Give me a talented player who has his eye on a bigger club after 3-4 years than someone like Ings or Lallana who will stay until they retire.
     
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  17. mighty_stevie_g

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    I guess so <ok>
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    as long as you all agree fowler is right its ok.

    We are not getting benteke anyway and he'll edn up at utd scoring 25 goals and geting them to cl last 16 and 3rd or something ;)

    We will prob give rodgers a choice of heskey or gazza this time round.
     
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    I see all the Brazilians are making a hasty exit out of Ukraine. Douglas Costa to Bayern and now Luiz Adriano to AC
     
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  20. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    When was the last time you actually made a postive comment? I'm wondering if your just habitually putting a downer on every thing...

    Benteke is a solid player. My only question is whether he fits our system. But if he can fit Belgiums maybe he can fit ours. If he comes lets give him a chance.
     
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