Off Topic Mafia VIII - Mafia vs Zombies

[BobbyD]

Lol Valley has piped up straight away. Guilty!. Schwarbs what happens if the cop mafia, army recruit at the same time?

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

bobby. whats your view of your role?

don't tell us your tactical choices for the night time obviously but how do you view being the known innocent.

 

[afcftw]

I've been the known innocent before (cop), bare in mind people will auto stick to what you say to avoid looking suspicious, so maybe don't try and lead the town too much like I did until you know what's going on a bit

 

[afcftw]

When I was he cop we had people up for the lynch based on the alphabetical order

 

[Red Hadron Collider]

Innocent... Not a townie then?

Yes. I'm a common or garden townie

 

[Bodinki]

When I was he cop we had people up for the lynch based on the alphabetical order

Yes I remember
*Looks at my name*

 

[Tobes]

Morning all, taken me ****ing ages reading the rules!

Let the randomness begin.

 

[afcftw]

I change to RHC

 

[Red Hadron Collider]

I change to RHC

My sense of amazement knows no ****ing bounds.

I vote afcftw

 

[afcftw]

My sense of amazement knows no ****ing bounds.

I vote afcftw

 

[Sir Tennisball]

so can we work together lads?

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AM i right in my totting up here?

19 players 7 non role town (which obviously i am one of along with 18 others)

there are 5 bad guys, 3 mafia, one super zombie, 1 serial killer in 19 players. thats 5/19 a quarter of the town right there thats bad.

Yup that's the way I see it, situation is:
Town-Mafia-Zombies-SK
14-3-1-1

 

[afcftw]

I change my vote to Sir Tennisball

 

[afcftw]

(By the way I'm at home sick today so I'll be here annoying you all day lol)

 

[Sir Tennisball]

i use that one to track roles.

i used it last game too.

By day 3 or 4 you should be able to see the odds of who is innocent and guilty shortening as you fill in the hard facts. I don't put anything thats not 100% certain in known info column.

the complication this time is there are 4 different recruit possibilities and many zombie infections by then so the picutre will be less clear as any role could be converted. we will get an idea of the initial game set up from known info as it is revealed though.

by my reckoning

1. there are 4 recruits that could occur, masons, cops, mafia, army. thats a lot. 3 are on the good side. they all now have 25% chance of hitting a bad guy. those odds will only get bigger

2. there are 3 killing roles. so we don't know but the serial killer should kill anyway but then the other two might or might not. each kill gives us hard info.

3. the zombie will bite. @Swarbs we get told someone gets bitten right so we can track number of infected?

4. there is one protective role and he only protects one person

5. there are 3 investigators, all good guys. virologist says who is zombie. journo can be hacked twice but can say who is mafia, cop can hunt zombies. cop can then recruit a detective too. The cop can reveal his detectives info so it will be interesting to see if he recruits right off. That extra known info from bobby would be good.

Nice summary mito. I agree, it's going to be chaos once all the recruits happen and the infections start.

On no5, I think the cop (@BobbyD) HAS to recruit on day 1 as the investigations are vital to us. I know there's a chance he'll recruit a mafia/SZ/SK, but those investigations are critical and we need them asap. The only real threat is recruiting mafia as the detective says mafia or not, he can't see zombie (Swarbs: "This person can investigate someone and find out if they are Mafia or not. They cannot determine if people are zombies or not."). So even if he recruits SK or SZ they will still help find mafia, so still good for town. So Bobby has a 3/18 chance of recruiting mafia, which is only 17%.

 

[afcftw]

Nice summary mito. I agree, it's going to be chaos once all the recruits happen and the infections start.

On no5, I think the cop (@BobbyD) HAS to recruit on day 1 as the investigations are vital to us. I know there's a chance he'll recruit a mafia/SZ/SK, but those investigations are critical and we need them asap. The only real threat is recruiting mafia as the detective says mafia or not, he can't see zombie (Swarbs: "This person can investigate someone and find out if they are Mafia or not. They cannot determine if people are zombies or not."). So even if he recruits SK or SZ they will still help find mafia, so still good for town. So Bobby has a 3/18 chance of recruiting mafia, which is only 17%.

Yep I'm of the opinion we need to get recruiting early on for the best odds of an innocent being in position to help us

 

[afcftw]

I change my vote to Lucaaas

 

[InBiscanWeTrust]

Nice summary mito. I agree, it's going to be chaos once all the recruits happen and the infections start.

On no5, I think the cop (@BobbyD) HAS to recruit on day 1 as the investigations are vital to us. I know there's a chance he'll recruit a mafia/SZ/SK, but those investigations are critical and we need them asap. The only real threat is recruiting mafia as the detective says mafia or not, he can't see zombie (Swarbs: "This person can investigate someone and find out if they are Mafia or not. They cannot determine if people are zombies or not."). So even if he recruits SK or SZ they will still help find mafia, so still good for town. So Bobby has a 3/18 chance of recruiting mafia, which is only 17%.

Unless he investigates someone himself night 1 and depending on what they come back as, recruit them day 2?

that way we'll be 100% certain that he hasn't recruited mafia at least?

 

[astro]

Nice summary mito. I agree, it's going to be chaos once all the recruits happen and the infections start.

On no5, I think the cop (@BobbyD) HAS to recruit on day 1 as the investigations are vital to us. I know there's a chance he'll recruit a mafia/SZ/SK, but those investigations are critical and we need them asap. The only real threat is recruiting mafia as the detective says mafia or not, he can't see zombie (Swarbs: "This person can investigate someone and find out if they are Mafia or not. They cannot determine if people are zombies or not."). So even if he recruits SK or SZ they will still help find mafia, so still good for town. So Bobby has a 3/18 chance of recruiting mafia, which is only 17%.

Even if the detective is dirty, if they give bad information the cop can just out them so the damage is limited

 

[InBiscanWeTrust]

By the way not saying he shouldn't recruit day one? Just thinking of other scenarios and how they may affect the game for good or bad

 

[afcftw]

Unless he investigates someone himself night 1 and depending on what they come back as, recruit them day 2?

that way we'll be 100% certain that he hasn't recruited mafia at least?

He can't investigate and find mafia can he? Only zombie? Which is why we need th detective