Stadium plans revealed
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Well it's at least a small step. More investigation, more consultants, more proposals. Seems our stadium upgrades move like Government ones, as if on Mogodon.
Obviously a very big problem to keep the stadium where it is, but an equally big problem to relocate anywhere close by.
Obviously a very big problem to keep the stadium where it is, but an equally big problem to relocate anywhere close by.
Surely a redevelopment is getting cost prohibitive? They were saying on the radio the other day that match day tickets sales are becoming less relevant to clubs profit now anyway due to much more money coming from sponsors and tv deals. If we get an extra 10-15k through the gate, how long would it take to see any return on the investment of a redevelopment and restructure of the local transport links, stadium exits etc?
I'm far from an expert but I can't see how we'd be financially better off years and years.
I'm far from an expert but I can't see how we'd be financially better off years and years.
I presume you mean because you think we wouldn't fill it?
Plenty of tourists in London and glory hunters jumping on our last decade of success. We're one of the big clubs in Europe now, we'd fill it and our fan base continues to grow.
A United fan should know all about glory hunters....
You would not fill it for starters. Your support is primarily glory supporters anyway (ironic you try a tired old jibe when the reality is, your gates were incredibly poor pre roman and success, your crowds were embarrassing and even after success, you had to be provided help to actually support the side) with around 15000 core supporters.
Its a waste of time.
Yeah, despite MiRs spastication, it wouldnt be a problem to fill it to be honest.
Its not a problem right now to fill and there are enough glory hunters and corporate knobs eager to watch games.
Point is, as stated, will it make that much difference?
I calculate a gate increase of approx 450k per game, works out about £10m a season (maybe more maybe less depending on how far we get in the CL and the two domestic cups but we would get less in the cups due to the split in fees).
If its gonna cost £500m, then it will take 50 seasons for it to pay for itself.....hardly seems a wise investment.
Even if you half that to take friendlies and other events in to account, 25 year return?........meh
I guess the redevelopment cost wont count toward FFP, so the clubs income will increase but....still....meh.
Its not a problem right now to fill and there are enough glory hunters and corporate knobs eager to watch games.
Point is, as stated, will it make that much difference?
I calculate a gate increase of approx 450k per game, works out about £10m a season (maybe more maybe less depending on how far we get in the CL and the two domestic cups but we would get less in the cups due to the split in fees).
If its gonna cost £500m, then it will take 50 seasons for it to pay for itself.....hardly seems a wise investment.
Even if you half that to take friendlies and other events in to account, 25 year return?........meh
I guess the redevelopment cost wont count toward FFP, so the clubs income will increase but....still....meh.
If only it was that simple Yank. Glory fans will only come if you're providing entertainment. With the prices clearly going to be high, you will be in direct competition with Arsenal who, lets be honest, even without any real success, are a more attractive team for your casual fan.
You may attract corporate fans but do you really need to increase capacity for that. At cost of two season sharing Craven Cottege (or Loftus Road, how great would that be?) while Roman flushed half a billion (takes you to 3billion spent under him) down the drain.
You may attract corporate fans but do you really need to increase capacity for that. At cost of two season sharing Craven Cottege (or Loftus Road, how great would that be?) while Roman flushed half a billion (takes you to 3billion spent under him) down the drain.
No ******, glory fans come if you provide glory, hence their name.
Besides you are about as entertaining as an STD and you are still around.
Glory fans follow club as status symbols. Arsenal are the status symbol for London fans. Those casual fans who dont know any of the players who play for the club.
Says MiR with all his worldly knowledge.
What you don't know could fill a book mate.
It's not a tired old jibe. I grew up in Essex and was surrounded by Liverpool and United fans. Now some of them may claim to have a distant uncle that once went to Old Trafford but I can assure you 90% of them were glory hunters who just picked the best teams to follow despite them being 100s of miles away.
Our gates pre Roman were pretty much comparable with gates in the 90s for teams of our level.
Got to love United fans sounding more and more like Liverpool fans daily.
Fifth highest all-time average in England pre Roman.
We averaged 39030 and 39770 in the seasons before Roman took over, and 41k now
He won't see that mate, I have banned him.
Guys a ****ing worm, didn't say boo to a goose whilst Moyes was in charge, just stayed over on their board crying like a little bitch.
Then LvG comes, spends the GDP of a small country to get the coveted 4th place trophy, and he becomes Billy big bollocks, on here trying to spew his moronic bile.
Fairweather moron.
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Yep. They go on about the scousers and their history and yet they imitate them at every opportunity.
Don't explain reason mate, there's no point. Some of that lot only understand their own lingo, which is basically nonsense. The ignore facility is excellent I can tell you.
Don't forget, money invested in property has regularly doubled every 10 years, so 10 mill per year will actually be more like 25 years. Then there's the increase in the value of the Stadium itself, which will also close to double every 10 years, or certainly every 20. With minuscule interest rates, it's not a bad investment at all. That's without the increase in ticket costs over the 20 year period, so it looks even better. I'll leave that to Roman, he's better at those things than I am.
Think you're being a bit conservative on crowds as well, if we retain our place as a top Club, then the "glory fans" turn into long term fans as well after 10 or 15 years. Post Roman, loads have already done 7 years. .
But just as important is the joy of watching matches with 60 or 70 thousand fans (or 83,000 as Chelsea got in Sydney) That's the business, and that's what our competitors fans will enjoy. We have to match that.
Not sure this means much CP, what use is a football stadium to anyone other than a football club. The land it stands on may increase in value though depending on it`s usage status.