Daily Racing Thread Friday 12th. June 2015
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What a horse that Squire is! Stick must be delighted with that and if you look at the horses behind him there is no doubt that he is a proper racehorse of the type people would have paid a huge amount more than Sticks syndicate have and be more than happy with. Ran his heart out again and gave everything.
The winner is a different class and would have been an unlucky loser had he not got out, and because of being trapped in actually won without hitting full stride or having a race. With regard the second horse this was his whole season as was trying to win the race for the third time and so to come in third is a brilliant run and there is more to come from Squire. I have no doubt he will pick up a grade 3 this season if staying sound and being placed as he is in the right races.
Well done all involved
The winner is a different class and would have been an unlucky loser had he not got out, and because of being trapped in actually won without hitting full stride or having a race. With regard the second horse this was his whole season as was trying to win the race for the third time and so to come in third is a brilliant run and there is more to come from Squire. I have no doubt he will pick up a grade 3 this season if staying sound and being placed as he is in the right races.
Well done all involved
That Rembrandt Van Rijn is one to look for next time. It was much better than the winning distance but was stuck behind the runner-up pulling double for the last furlong and got out just in time. At the distance I had a horrible feeling that Morris was going to switch Squire inside looking for a gap but instead he forced his way to the outside. He was effectively beaten for second by the jockey on the runner-up’s claim. Those that do not back each-way at less than about 12/1 did our money but there is always another time. He is paying for his keep in prize money.
The horse that had won the race twice before was Chain Of Events, not the runner-up Solo Hunter. Last year he completed a hat-trick in winning it.
The horse that had won the race twice before was Chain Of Events, not the runner-up Solo Hunter. Last year he completed a hat-trick in winning it.
Cheers fellas, really pleased with him again. As has already been said, where can you get this much fun for under four grand!
Morris said the horse wanted to get going sooner but he didn't want to hit the front too soon and have him idle. I really like the winner and think the animal is somewhere near listed class so we have to be delighted with our boys progress. He will have a little time off now and see how he is. There is a race at Sandown at the Eclipse meeting or one at Ascot that we might go for but we will let him tell us how he is.
I fully expect him to go up a pound or two for that effort so we could be getting near his limit. He should have a mark now that will get him in the Silver Cambridgeshire off a handy mark.
Thanks for all the positive comments, really appreciated.
Been told that DAGHER will not get beaten in the 4:55
Morris said the horse wanted to get going sooner but he didn't want to hit the front too soon and have him idle. I really like the winner and think the animal is somewhere near listed class so we have to be delighted with our boys progress. He will have a little time off now and see how he is. There is a race at Sandown at the Eclipse meeting or one at Ascot that we might go for but we will let him tell us how he is.
I fully expect him to go up a pound or two for that effort so we could be getting near his limit. He should have a mark now that will get him in the Silver Cambridgeshire off a handy mark.
Thanks for all the positive comments, really appreciated.
Been told that DAGHER will not get beaten in the 4:55
That is okay. I just stated something that could be misinterpreted: “Last year he completed a hat-trick in winning it.”
By that I meant that he came into the 2014 race having won his previous two races that season; not that he had won the race the previous two years.
Well done place money again with squire great when you get your initial investment back so quickly guys 
Did you have to hold onto your tongue when Morris said that Stick?
He is suggesting he was worried the horse wanted to go and didn't want him idling in front so he thought he would make it more difficult for the horse to get his head in front at all. If he had bothered to watch Squires pervious wins or speak to anyone who had he would know that horse does not stop and will keep pulling out, as he did at Newmarket. I have had enough jockey ranting this week already so will leave it there.
He is suggesting he was worried the horse wanted to go and didn't want him idling in front so he thought he would make it more difficult for the horse to get his head in front at all. If he had bothered to watch Squires pervious wins or speak to anyone who had he would know that horse does not stop and will keep pulling out, as he did at Newmarket. I have had enough jockey ranting this week already so will leave it there.
Couldn't agree more Cityhull - had he enquired he would have been told I feel sure that the horse keeps finding when challenged as he did at Windsor and Newmarket, with this information a likely tactic would be get to the front in good time and see if the others have as much heart for the finish line. If the horse gets beat or even if he idled for the first time, the jock can come in and say he idled but he is blameless as the horse is not known for it. To fear an eventuality which has never been shown in a previous race and to hold onto a horse that takes an age to hit full stride is beyond foolish.
He would not have beaten the fav and so we are likely only talking about the difference between 2nd or 3rd but it's the principle of a jock hindering rather than helping through outthinking themselves. There is no better term for it than outthinking himself when a jock takes evasive action to prevent an eventuality which has never been shown before.
Lovely pedigree that Rembrandt Van Rijn. Just look at those sire and dam lines. Some real class throughout. Could have been beaten by a good'un there chaps. That's his hat trick. I see he's entered back on the AW next Thursday
Squire took a keen hold again. Seems to have hit a flat spot 2 out and ran on. Wouldn't be surprised if the early pace wasn't that hot and the sudden change of pace 2 out just caught him/the jockey out. Final time almost 3 secs faster than the immediately following race
The trainer and jockey(s) will have a better feel but, now he's got the hang of things, I would still love to see him over a truly run 11/12f. He clearly has the speed as he takes a keen hold against milers and he stays on well at the end of a stiff 10f
Rembrandt Van Rijn pedigree
Squire took a keen hold again. Seems to have hit a flat spot 2 out and ran on. Wouldn't be surprised if the early pace wasn't that hot and the sudden change of pace 2 out just caught him/the jockey out. Final time almost 3 secs faster than the immediately following race
The trainer and jockey(s) will have a better feel but, now he's got the hang of things, I would still love to see him over a truly run 11/12f. He clearly has the speed as he takes a keen hold against milers and he stays on well at the end of a stiff 10f
Rembrandt Van Rijn pedigree
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I reckon someone must have been told Commodore also wouldn't be beaten stick, as it was backed into fav causing Dagher to drift. But that didn't last long. Then a 16/1 outsider pops up and beats them both. If that was expected by someone then well done to them.
What might draw me back into betting is when connections of one horse won't hear of their horse getting beaten and connections of all the other horses in the race confirm their's won't be winning for various reasons; and the one that "is going to win" isn't odds on
Well it WAS a good price when he went off 8/15
Well done on Squire lads, 9/1 cracking e/w price and by sounds of the forum a very good run
Two for me at Clonmel:
6:35 - Borussia 9/1
7:40 - Utmost Zeal 7/1
Two ew singles and ew double.
Well done with any winners today lads.
Stick/Don well done with Squire you must be thrilled with what he's doing for you. Must be such a buzz. Glad he's come back well and thanks for been honest and straight with the forum with the info you provide on him. my knowledge of racing is very limited so to read the insight from people who actually own a horse (and a good one at that) and others with extensive knowledge of the sport is fascinating for me
6:35 - Borussia 9/1
7:40 - Utmost Zeal 7/1
Two ew singles and ew double.
Well done with any winners today lads.
Stick/Don well done with Squire you must be thrilled with what he's doing for you. Must be such a buzz. Glad he's come back well and thanks for been honest and straight with the forum with the info you provide on him. my knowledge of racing is very limited so to read the insight from people who actually own a horse (and a good one at that) and others with extensive knowledge of the sport is fascinating for me
