Off Topic Afcftw Mafia Game

I agree with this - if MITO is actually the drunk then we can't trust him anyway.

What we need is for you to investigate MITO and find out if he is telling the truth. Your investigations are 100% legit, so you can confirm once and for all if MITO is PI or Mafia.

That's important to do now imo, as otherwise we may lynch Sir Tennisball tomorrow based on MITO's info, which may not be accurate.

 

The OP says "the psychic spends his time studying the mystic and is able to read the aura of other town members". That definitely implies that the psychic could pick up some disruptions in the aura, such as them killing someone.

Ultimately you've been fingered as non town, so unless you can prove you have a town role you are going up that gibbet.

 

An aura? **** off swarbs.

He described witnessing something 'on his way home' not having some form of 'vision', utter pap.

 

I think when we lynch Tobes tonight a lot of facts will evolve from that which will help shape our thinking as we try to root out the Mafia.

 

I can't be arsed, you're all ****ing useless.

I vote: TOBES

 

He was never going to investigate someone at risk; aka he was never going to pick a lurker if that was who we were targeting for the lynch.

Plus, for you to be innocent, both Valley and MITO have to be lying and their stories fit together. No way the Mafia would take such a risk this early in the game when outnumbered so badly, they need the game to last over a week for them to win, highlighted themselves now would give themselves no chances.

 

Is it worth pointing out that AFC is running the game here

 

Agreed. If Tobes has a role then it is different, at the moment we risk losing a standard townie in exchange for a probably (as it currently appears) hit. Its a no brainer really. I still think Valley was compromised but how do we find out? Best option is lynch Tobes, it gets us the most answers.

The numbers are stacked so much in the towns favour that there will be a lot more townies die before this game is over.

 

I hope these will help those wondering to get down to brass tacks here. I will call all claims as none have provable evidence until the town lynches and finds out 100%


Claim 1: by valley


http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-26#post-8023811

post 508


“An investigation last night and Tobes was identifiedas not being a member of the Town.

The poster who kept changing votes in the last few moments was seenrunning away with a bloodied knife in his hand near IBWTs sliced and diced body.This person is a Liverpool MOD.”


Also read 546 http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-28#post-8023873


“I am not the PI or the Drunk, I work part time on Most Haunted

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Both are verbatim quotes from valley last night

 

Claim 2: by tobes:


Post 547: http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-28#post-8023874


“Swarbs said: ↑

But how did you get two bits of information when there's no detective?

You've dodged that question four times now...”


“Exactly.

He's saying that mito is mafia and I'm not town, but the detective is dead ffs.

Poor attempt at fishing”


Post 563: http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-29#post-8023904


ValleyGraduate12 said: ↑

**** sake lads, read post #536.

I investigated Tobes. He's is a non town member.

On my way home, I spotted mito running from the scene of the crime with a bloodied knife in his hand. I just happened to see MITO running away. There wasn't a second investigation.

But the detective is dead.

“You must be the pissed version who's only got a 2/3 success rate, and you've some how supposedly uncovered 2 non town in one evening. Yeah right oh.”


Post: 578 http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-29#post-8023927


So the supposed mystic says I'm not town, but also comes out with some tale of seeing the mafia killer and you're lapping this **** up?

FFS you're all so ****ing gullible. Why come out at this point and then embellish the story with a double 'vision'

Lynch away lads - again ffs

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Claim 3: BY ME.


Post 574: http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-29#post-8023920



“Ok guys I just read something interesting.

ValleyGraduate12 said: ↑

An investigation last night and Tobes was identified as not being a member of the Town.

The poster who kept changing votes in the last few moments was seen running away with a bloodied knife in his hand near IBWTs sliced and diced body. This person is a Liverpool MOD.



ok guys this is where it gets interesting

please settle in for a tale of woe

.......................................................

1. Please all re-read these rules:

Detective - the detective can investigate one person each night by sending a PM to me. The detective will learn whether the target is mafia, cartel, has a role or is a normal town person. The detective is always on the lookout and may receive further information beyond his investigations.

Doctor - the doctor can protect one person each night, but cannot protect the same person on two nights running.

Psychic - the psychic spends his time studying the mystic and is able to read the aura of other town members. The psychic can choose to investigate one person each night but will only receive a town, or non-town read.

Town Drunk (Alcoholic PI) - once upon a time a great detective with a bright future but after falling to the bottom of a bottle and losing his job he started his own private investigation service. The only problem is, he hasn't put down the bottle. He can investigate one person each night but with blurry vision will only get a correct investigation 2/3 times. Bumbling drunk, or town saviour?

2. Valley here is accusing someone of killing IBWT.

Well here it is. Valley has unfortunately claimed two things here

2.a Tobes is non town. If true this is important. he could be cartel perhaps.

2.b Valley is claiming by coming out as the psychic that in effect he ALSO say an LFC mod kill IBWT. this unfortunately doesn't add up at all as tobes is not an lfc mod so is he following two people?

so valley somehow investigated tobes but saw a lfc mod also kill IBWT.


are we all following so far?

Right lets get down to it.

3. I know half of what is going on.

There are hidden rules so this could all be forced upon valley but her eis the thing.

I KNOW which mod killed IBWT..
I had the great pleasure in sticking it to IBWT. SHOCK... the truth is i was forced to do it by mafia. they held my family and forced me to do it.

Here is the other thing

4. I AM THE TOWN DRUNK

yes sob it is true. my name is mito and i am an alcoholic.
I have to come out now unfortunately on night one. My tactic today was to look so ridiculous nobody uold risk recruiting me or killing me

But good news. my imprending doom will be not for naught.

I did get a piece of info which i will now reveal.

I chose Sir tennisball as a potential lurker and investigated. Please bear in mind info is only 2/3 right at best.

I got the result that sir tennisball is MAFIA

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so now you all must decide.

Has some hidden mafia power chosen valley and sneakily revealed that i was picked to kill IBWT?

Has he come back with REAL or FAKE info to us.

Are all the towns investigators right now out in the open?

you all have to decide.

as of now:

1. Tobes is under direct suspicison. He could be the cartel boss and chose one of billy and IBWT to recruit and failed. he could be mafia.

2. Valley has to be under suspicision. As the psychic he would get the non town read but how did he get the extra info.. ONLY ibwt should have got that and he died. the only explaination is he was fed it too. I did call him out along with others so mafia might have used it

3. Sir tennis ball MIGHT be mafia. he is 2/3 maifa from my investigate

4. I am the town drunk. I did investigate and i did kill IBWT. I am giving myself up as I think a one for one exchange of investigator for mafia is a good exchange.

You can all judge for yourselves who is dodgiest and who to kill but I am being totally straight with you and say IMO the other 3 are very dodgy so Id welcome you killing me now i have got the info out. MAKE SURE YOU KILL THE OTHERS.

I am now changing my investigate to valley for tomorrow night”




post: 586: http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-30#post-8023941


Again I can confirm i was on the other end of a note saying i killed IBWT.

There are only two options.

1. Valley is mafia pretending as he would know who was made kill.

2. Valley was selected as the person who would be fed the info after I was made do the kill

The only thing we know is we have a hidden power in mafia

I have taken the step of having to come out and make myself a total target in order to revel that I found sir tennis is MAFIA it is only 2/3 accruate.

get thinking lads.

I am investigating valley tomorrow.

 

Claim 4: by obi wan


Post: 597: http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-30#post-8023963


“OK, so AFC has passed me my first wave of secret info.

I have decided I will share with everyone.

He tells me that AT LEAST ONE of these points is TRUE. But NOT necessarily ALL.

1. Valley was seen chewing on salami in Luigi's restaurant, seemingly giving orders to someone.
2. Nobby was putting out his rubbish and there was a lot of noise from all those empty whiskey bottles.
3. Mikey was seen handing money over to a rather shady looking figure who was wearing a Newcastle United shirt.”

 

Claim 5: By Sir tennis


Post 599: http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-30#post-8023966


“Now i'm very confused.

If mito is telling the truth and was forced to kill by a secret mafia ability then it kinda makes sense, as only two kills and no recruit are weak abilities. So if they can force others to kill that balances things out nicely.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as he stated he has a 1/3 chance of being wrong, but i am a townie. Don't expect you to believe that understandably if he is telling the truth, but check all my posts so far.

I still think Tobes is the main threat. I'm not sure if we can find out if mito is telling the truth, obviously if the mafia force someone to kill tomorrow night then we know that's their secret power. I can't prove i'm town as i have no special role or powers, so if we can prove mito is the drunk i'd understand being put up for lynch, i'm not a role anyway.”

 

Those are the posts originally and there are many many more after


I looked at my pm and compared to what valley said for example. I replied to lucaas that I deffo killed ibwt in post 618 http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-31#post-8024010


Post 687 http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-35#post-8024261


I read the tags and saw a comment about reading between the lines I don’t know who put it down


I checked my pm verses vally’s pm:


“ValleyGraduate12 said:↑

I had Tobes investigated lads, and on my way home I saw MITO running from the area in which IBWT was killed with his bloodied knife. I just happened to see MITO.


this is 536.

let me add to this

this is what i was told

I went home after lynching

I found my family kidnapped so i rushed out and found ibwt and killed him

On my way home i staggered past the window of sir tennisball


so valley investigated and on my way home he saw me.... i then see tennis after.

there is a certain order to it all that might say AFC wrote it all out rather than say a mafia”



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What do I believe right now?


1. I know I am the town drunk and I know I was playing a tactical game yesterday based on having making myself look nuts and in general I thought nobody would then either recruit or kill me as the risk was highish. The mafia killed ibwt instead…


2. I THINK sir tennis is a mafia. I am 2/3s sure but there has to be doubt given my role


3. I THINK valley is telling the truth as his pm reveal aligns with what I KNOW is in my pm. Of course he could be putting it all on and laughing.. BUT the real psychic could even have tagged but did not. The real one could still come out and end this as in the end if valley is caught lying it’s a good bargain. As none has I have to believe valley.


4. Therefore I think THINK tobes is non town. I don’t know what role that is but its one to kill. That’s why my vote is on tobes.


5. Even if this is a put on the mafia have one kill left. I THINK their hidden power is this force someone else to do it and then have someone see it. I don’t know who its set up exactly. But if they have just the one kill and no recruit… it would be NUTS to reveal a team member just to take me out and then tobes… why? Tobes did nothing much and it would have been easy to have me lynched in a vote today just by saying I was dodgy. There’s enough who were wondering wtf I was at to try that.


What I acknowledge:


1. I came out only after valley. Ergo I see I can look desperate and trying a put on. … three things.


First tobes has not explicitly said what his role at merely tried to contradict both of us.


Second there are many better ways to go about denying it especially as valley said he never say me kill just carrying a bloddy knife. I could have said it’s a frame up but I have brought in new info on sir tennis and also been explicit in saying who killed ibwt


Third; no other town drunk has come out. Why? They know if they do they will be hanging themselves in a day or two anyway and sir tennis has already said he is just town and tobes accused vally of being the drunk… neither can realistically claim it either


2. I might be wrong. Valley might have pulled a stroke. I could have just fallen for it. But again that puts valley out front and centre if tobes is not guilty. I still say the mafia are understrength in this game 3 is one short and they only have the two kills

 

when you are done reading through... I say... if there are kills you have the power and you decide.

I think tobes has to die as there is some chance he could be the cartel boss. That is too big a chance to make this a lock of a game for the town

I think then if you think i am dodgy kill me overnight. don't put me in a lynch tie. just kill me over night. I am the town drunk but i volunteer to die to prove it.

I think you need to say ok sir tennis is mafia.. lets assume guilt here and mark him.

you all still need to find the other bad guys. so the town roles must still go looking to kill/invesitgate and find others.

the sequence is tobes lynch makes valley look really good. i'm told don't investigate valley ok so lets let the lynch do it for us.

I die i will be proved right, ergo if thats the case why investigate too.

if i don't die then sir tennis must be lynched. If he is innocent you lynch me

AT BEST, and mark this at best I am mafia. If i am its not in my interest to let cartel grow but that might be tobes yeah? so if i'm taking out sir tennis from me it won't help my side win. they have one kill left anyway so at best i'm trying to live long enough to kill valley tonight.

would a mafia tell you the plan? you decide.

 

You've assumed thy're colluding as opposed to one chucking in a hand grenade and the other panicking and reacting with a story that merely excuses himself, how can you not see that?

mito is as guilty as ****, if you believe Valley and therefore I'm non town and for the lynch, and yet ignore the fact that if you believe that then by defintion you have to accept the fact that he saw the murderer i.e. Mito, then you're off you heads ffs.

And why are you prepared to ignore it? Because mito came back with a concocted excuse as to why he was the murderer but somehow not guilty

Brilliant. Hats off to mito if he pulls this off, he's making you look like goons.

 

HA!

so who threw a hand grenade and who panicked? how can valley just be telling a story... and then me be guilty as ****.

sorry tobes that doesn't add up.

IF I am guilty the town can kill me... if valley is inncoent you are non town so therefore have to die too.

I say you die by lynch at worst you are mafia at best you are cartel.

You know full well i'm being truthful but i say to the meth head and nutjob go target me. the meth head is best as its a sure kill.

that will end any possibility of the alternate reality that i am a really piss poor assassin who got seen doing the crime by an investigator who what not even looking at either me or ibwt.

 

Tobes

800 posts in 24 hours, Christ almighty.

 

It adds up perfectly.

You gambled on Valley's story being believed and came up with your tale as it was the only possible excuse that could make you innocent in that scenario. Despite it not being a role defined in the rules or even hinted at - you came up with being a coerced murderer, and these mugs are swallowing it

 

so

don't worry 600 are me