Off Topic Circumcision

It's only changed because the NHS stopped doing it as elective surgery.

 

Yeah I didn't think it was religion - have never heard of it being a Catholic thing at any rate. I did wonder if it was just done in ireland so nobody would think their kids might be Brits in later life but your answer has blown that one out of the water

 

And good on them.

I agree with Tobes (who is presumably snipped ), that it is not the same as FGM, though both barbaric, one (FGM) has a negative impact on the lives of the children to whom this custom is inflicted, the other (circumcision) has the positive impact that lazy bastards no longer need to wash their knobs as much.
So with that in mind, though technically BOTH are genital mutilation, one is far worse. Though imo both should be removed from the face of the planet.

 

I do sort of agree with this - but it is potentially a small price for any lad to pay if it means he never has to endure the pain of catching it in his zipper

 

haha, have done that once or twice....ouch!
Having a child, and then deciding to start hacking bits off them, to any degree, is ****ing mental though.

 

Pity Bluff isn't around to tell us, but in the US around two thirds of males are circumcised. So had you been born over there, you could have a different point of view.

 

Ahhh the US, the bastion of sanity.

 

FGM is more of a traditional thing here in Kenya than religious and is done by the more (for lack of a good word) primitive tribes i.e. Masai,Samburu and Pokots. There are many campaigns to stop it but it will take time to convince them it is not a good thing. This are tribes who still practice cattle rustling so have that in mind.

Male circumcision is normal practice probably 80% of males in my country have had the snip. It is a passage right into adulthood though I was a little immature tw@t at age 14. I can confirm there are no effects.

 

So it seems it's not just a ''pointless religious exercise'' then

 

I was thinking more the UK.
On a worldwide scale its done for a variety of reasons, all bullshit.
I would also argue that most of the traditions spewed out of the US are for faux religious reasons. I think around 60% of that country still considers itself "religious" which in itself is a worrying statistic. (Though I would also view that figure with skepticism in regard to how many of them practice their religion devoutly)

 

I'm not sure why you're stuck on it being religion related. It's a health issue in the US they see it as similar to childhood vaccination and by not doing it are putting the child's health at risk. A recent research paper found that ''over their lifetime, half of all uncircumcised males will contract a medical condition related to their foreskin..... also finding that circumcision reduces risk for HIV transmission in heterosexual men by 60 percent, genital herpes by 30 percent, and cancer-causing strains of HPV by 35 percent.''

 

My opinion is... I don't think it really makes much difference if you lob the skin off the end of the knob or not.

There are complications but they are incredibly rare.

There is some evidence that it does help lessen chance of STDs... How? I dunno, maybe bacteria get trapped under foreskin if you have it.

It doesn't seem to help much... Only makes a minor difference... So the pro and con balance each other out. Perhaps in Africa which is suffering an AIDS pandemic it makes sense to be circumcised.

People who get circumcised later in life say they do feel less sensitivity, although that may not be an issue for those clipped as an infant.

In the US it is a "aesthetic" thing. You'll find some people who have strong opinions that a clipped Willy is an attractive Willy. You'll also find plenty of women with a foreskin fetish... The vast majority don't give a damn what headgear you're wearing.

Male circumcision isn't really a big deal one way or the other. Being English I'm not clipped an my wife and I decided not to clip out son.


Female circumcision is a completely different animal as mentioned above. Completely wrong

Anyone who performs genital mutilation will be turned into a frog that will be ****ed by Brigham Young (obscure joke that none of you will likely get).

 

That's a rather optimistic funding. Usually I've seen rates much lower than that.

Still... Circumcision is slowly dying out in the US. Each generation cuts the skin off a smaller % of boys. Health studies are new but they've been looping skin off for generations. Most parents don't do it for health benefits they do it for aesthetic reasons.

 

STDs are transmitted through small microscopic cuts on your knob that happen (can happen) during sex, it's why unprotected sex with someone with an STD doesn't always result in an STD, just a much higher chance of contraction. So if you have a foreskin its said that this is more likely to get tiny abrasions and thus increased risk of contracting STD.

Nothing wrong with getting circumcised, but it should be the child's decision in later life, not the parents. It can be a big deal if complications arise (and they do, god knows how) and more is cut than should be or there is a slip. It happens.

 

My point was, in US it's not religion related

April 2014 - The overall rate among U.S. males age 14 to 59 is 81 percent, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

And nice to see you back..

 

Put simply...I dont care about the US.
Why are you harping on about the US?

And that research paper?
Not really sure how many circumcised people I know (I havent asked), but certainly no males in my family are circumcised and none of my close friends are.
"A Medical condition related to their foreskin" sounds kind of vague to me.
I mean cutting your dick on your zipper and requiring stitches is technically a medical condition related to your foreskin.
I am not debating that foreskins harbour germs, that inarguable, but just keep it clean man.
Thats like chopping off your hand in case you get arthritis one day.

Just cutting off extremeties because you cant be bothered to keep them clean sounds like madness to me

 

What we need is minxy to come on and tell us if it makes any difference for women

@Minxy

 

I've had this discussion with women over the years. Most say they only notice a difference during oral.

 

you seem awfully hung up on a minor, germ incubating, irrelevant bit of skin Bodanki