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OnlyOneDB said:
Realistically, in your opinion, his value is closer to 25-30 in an OPEN market.

Its not an open market, there aren't numerous Modrics to choose from, there's one and the price for him as a player will be set by the club higher than comparative players or sales of recent times.

As I see it, and this is my opinion, his valuation will be above that of a Henderson ie £20m, and below that of a Kaka (as previously stated £56m.)

If current media speculation is to be believed, the red Mancs are currently lining up to launch an opening bid for Sneijder of £35m, comparable player, same position, same importance to his current team, same value placed on getting hold of him by the prospective buying club. Now I'm not saying that Modric is on the same level as Sneijder, but I am saying that the effect of losing them to their current teams would be the same so if the red Mancs get Sneider it'll be for at least £10m on top of the opening bid, if not more and the same will apply for Modric. £32-35m would probably be an acceptable bid, in the current market.
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The difficulty with that value though is that you now have a situation where relations between player and club have broken down. Short of demanding a transfer request (which Levy has intimated he will also disregard) Modric's only other choice would be to go on strike like Berbatov did. If it wasn't Modric (or those around him) forcing the move, then Spurs could realistically ask for silly money. But it's a situation that's degenerating fast, if you end up with a player who refuses to play for you, he is effectively worthless. So it may be more pragmatic to accept a bid closer to £30m
 
PISKIE said:
I think Spurs fans have to be realistic about Modric's value. I can understand that, being their best player and having a huge detriment to the team if he left, he is worth a lot to them. But anyone who understands business will tell you that something (or someone) is only worth what the other party are willing to buy it for. You could then argue that the seller doesn't have to sell if the buyer doesn't meet their valuation, which is okay if you have an inanimate object that will sit on the shelf, but a footballer who is unsettled, unhappy and wants to leave is a different commodity.

Spurs may feel that he is worth £40m+, but realistically, his open market value is closer to £25m - £30m
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You're right.... well almost.

Modric has 5 years on his contract and I make him to be worth about £35mill. Now we don't want to sell to a PL rival, so if say Utd wanted to bid, I'd add atleast another £5mill. Now as for Chelsea, they've spoken to the player without our permission and conspired with Modric on the best way to secure a move for him, I'd add another £150mill give or take :D
 
PISKIE said:
The difficulty with that value though is that you now have a situation where relations between player and club have broken down. Short of demanding a transfer request (which Levy has intimated he will also disregard) Modric's only other choice would be to go on strike like Berbatov did. If it wasn't Modric (or those around him) forcing the move, then Spurs could realistically ask for silly money. But it's a situation that's degenerating fast, if you end up with a player who refuses to play for you, he is effectively worthless. So it may be more pragmatic to accept a bid closer to £30m
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Can a player refuse to play? Wouldn't he then be in breach of contract? And could we not then withold his registration ensuring he could not play football ever, at all?

Not saying thats going to happen, just asking...
 
OnlyOneDB said:
Can a player refuse to play? Wouldn't he then be in breach of contract? And could we not then withold his registration ensuring he could not play football ever, at all?

Not saying thats going to happen, just asking...
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I think you're right in that he would be in breach of contract, to which end Spurs could then launch a claim against him. But his registration would be sanctioned by the FA, so I don't think Spurs could call the shots to such a punitive degree.

I may be wrong, but I would have thought that precisely because of a situation like this, that the club would not hold all the cards over a player's right to ply his trade.
 
I'm afraid, all you Chav fans, with your theoretical valuations, that will find that they mean sweet F.A. Modric is worth whatever Levy decides that he's worth TO SPURS. Any other valuations are meaningless.
 
OnlyOneDB said:
Can a player refuse to play? Wouldn't he then be in breach of contract? And could we not then withold his registration ensuring he could not play football ever, at all?

Not saying thats going to happen, just asking...
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Not sure but there have been examples of similar with Berba and Gallas (when he said he'd score an own goal if we didn't let him leave). If the relationship breaks down that much there is normally only one outcome.

As Piskie said, there is very little value in a player that doesn't want to play.

I can only see 2 outcomes, he is sold or a massive u-turn from the player (much like Rooney).
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
I'm afraid, all you Chav fans, with your theoretical valuations, that will find that they mean sweet F.A. Modric is worth whatever Levy decides that he's worth TO SPURS. Any other valuations are meaningless.
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To a point...but if he rejects what the player thinks are reasonable offers (not saying 'reasonable' offers have or have not been made), he risks the player staying and performing badly/feining injuries etc devaluing the player in the process on top of losing the oppotunity to re-invest whatever transfer fee would have been obtained.

Is not as simple as Levy is in charge here. Yes he ultimately can force the player to stay but somewhere along the line a business decision has to be made.
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
I'm afraid, all you Chav fans, with your theoretical valuations, that will find that they mean sweet F.A. Modric is worth whatever Levy decides that he's worth TO SPURS. Any other valuations are meaningless.
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That's not the case though. As already mentioned, if it were spurs dictating the move, then Levy could demand what he wanted (and chelsea would probably pay). But it's Modric who is calling the shots and with that comes a massive compromise on the value. Levy is playing hardball, and probably rightly so, but the longer it goes on, the less bargaining power he has. As much as it would sting, the pragmatic approach would be to take £30m from Chelsea and go and buy yourself another top MF player and have some spare change.
 
Modric does not hold any worthwhile cards at all. He signed a contract that has over 5yrs to run. Refuse to play? - don't be ridiculous. Fine, refuse to play, you're in breach of contract and we're not going to pay you. You're still not going anywhere. I think you underestimate just how pissed off Levy is over this whole thing. He said, apparently, to Modric - "Fine you can sit in the stands" I think he means it.

If the Chavs want him, they will have to pay top, top, dollar to get any joy from Levy.
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
The market value of Modric isn't going to determine what Chelsea have to pay for him. It will be whatever figure Spurs consider sufficient to agree to release him from his contract, which will be considerably more than market value.

If Sneijder is going to utd, as rumoured, for £35M, Modric's market value is around £30M, but £40M will be the figure needed to buy him, I would guess.

If Levy's a shrewd businessman, he won't reject £40M for a player.
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That would be the case if Spurs didn't have a disgruntled player on their hands. As it is though, neither party seem to be willing to budge, which will either end up with Modric going on strike and breaking his contract or Levy taking a pragmatic approach and accepting something nearer £30m

Chelsea today are talking about Kaka again, it's classic brinksmanship tactics. I.E. Give us the player that we want at the price we want, or we'll simply walk away and leave you with an unsettled player to deal with.
 
chelsea - over 100 years of history said:
Not sure but there have been examples of similar with Berba and Gallas (when he said he'd score an own goal if we didn't let him leave). If the relationship breaks down that much there is normally only one outcome.

As Piskie said, there is very little value in a player that doesn't want to play.

I can only see 2 outcomes, he is sold or a massive u-turn from the player (much like Rooney).
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Yes, Berbatov reportedly refused to play. But, look what Utd had to pay to get Levy to agree to his sale. Over £30mm. well in excess of his worth at the time.
 
When you know of a Player who has been 'Man-Managed' out of trebling/quadrupling his wages and joining a bigger & more successful(currently) Club in the Champions League, let me know the name of the Manager, and we'll send him off to sort out Pallastine
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
Modric does not hold any worthwhile cards at all. He signed a contract that has over 5yrs to run. Refuse to play? - don't be ridiculous. Fine, refuse to play, you're in breach of contract and we're not going to pay you. You're still not going anywhere. I think you underestimate just how pissed off Levy is over this whole thing. He said, apparently, to Modric - "Fine you can sit in the stands" I think he means it.

If the Chavs want him, they will have to pay top, top, dollar to get any joy from Levy.
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Levy might mean it now but there is no way he will let a 30 + million pound player rot and devalue. What good is that to Spurs? This is levy we're talking about not some billionnaire with more money than sense.

Modric might not strike but surely the risk is his performances being affected and bringing a negative attitude into the club?? If that happens his value will go down pretty quickly.
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
The market value of Modric isn't going to determine what Chelsea have to pay for him. It will be whatever figure Spurs consider sufficient to agree to release him from his contract, which will be considerably more than market value.

If Sneijder is going to utd, as rumoured, for £35M, Modric's market value is around £30M, but £40M will be the figure needed to buy him, I would guess.

If Levy's a shrewd businessman, he won't reject £40M for a player.
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Spot on, Lidls.

The obvious alternative would be to offer Modric to Inter as a replacement for Sneijder, if he does go.
I'm sure that they're well aware of what he can do.
 
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Abramovich should put his money to good use for once instead of trying to turn the PL into a one horse race and bribe everyone in the Middle East to stop fighting
 
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