He would certainly be a step up but I can't see him coming. Every time we change manager we have to start again.
Is Brendan Rodgers going to take us forward???
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On the back of last year's phenomenal season, Rodgers deserves one bad season. He's had it. Let's move on. Let's hope the owners/hierarchy can make changes to the management structure which will help the club secure better players in the transfer market. Let's hope for a good start to next season and develop from thereon.
We have zero chance of top 4 with our current team.... reality.
The question is now whether we are simply wasting further time on rodgers
Joined this one late. Rodgers has to go if there is any chance of getting a decent manager in.
I just don't think BR is good enough and was aided last year by having one of the best, if not the best, players of the season running riot. His management techniques are questionable....he can't handle leaders well, can't manage big headed kids well, plays players all over the place, has no settled team, doesn't even know his best eleven, can't defend for toffee, can't attract big names and is tactically naive and full of spin and sound bytes. In short, if he ever had it, he's lost it.
I just don't think BR is good enough and was aided last year by having one of the best, if not the best, players of the season running riot. His management techniques are questionable....he can't handle leaders well, can't manage big headed kids well, plays players all over the place, has no settled team, doesn't even know his best eleven, can't defend for toffee, can't attract big names and is tactically naive and full of spin and sound bytes. In short, if he ever had it, he's lost it.
Very interesting read from Tony Barrett last night. Just to sum up:
- Rodgers will have his usual end of season review soon with Mike Gordon (FSG's highest ranked official at Anfield.
- Owners aren't looking to sack Rodgers but he will have to prove/plead to them that he's the right man for the job.
- High on the agenda is to look at the disconnect between transfer strategy and team selection.
- Man City are heavily interested in Sterling and are willing to make him one of their highest paid players.
The 3rd point is the most interesting for me and it implies that Rodgers is not at all keen on the players that the committee buy. In another article written by the reliable Paul Joyce, he mentions something similar but goes into further detail on how Rodgers wanted Williams and Bertrand but was overruled in favour for Sakho and Moreno.
Personally, I think there will be structural changes and a DoF will come in. Whilst the article says Rodgers's job is safe, I think that's on the condition that he agrees to said changes.
- Rodgers will have his usual end of season review soon with Mike Gordon (FSG's highest ranked official at Anfield.
- Owners aren't looking to sack Rodgers but he will have to prove/plead to them that he's the right man for the job.
- High on the agenda is to look at the disconnect between transfer strategy and team selection.
- Man City are heavily interested in Sterling and are willing to make him one of their highest paid players.
The 3rd point is the most interesting for me and it implies that Rodgers is not at all keen on the players that the committee buy. In another article written by the reliable Paul Joyce, he mentions something similar but goes into further detail on how Rodgers wanted Williams and Bertrand but was overruled in favour for Sakho and Moreno.
Personally, I think there will be structural changes and a DoF will come in. Whilst the article says Rodgers's job is safe, I think that's on the condition that he agrees to said changes.
He allegedly refused to take the job if he had to work with DoF, he was in a strong position to do so back then because he knew John Henry wanted him to take the job, but now he's in a weak position and can either accept a DoF will work alongside him or he can join the managerial merry-go-round with Allardyce and others.
That doesn't sound consistent though. If there's already a disconnect between the transfers and the team selection, how will a DoF help? If Rodgers can't work well with the committee (or vice versa), why would a DoF change that? Surely either they work well together, or you scrap the committee and give transfer power to the manager, or you sack the manager for someone who does work well with the committee (or sack all of them and get a new manager with sole control of transfers).
If a DoF does come in, would that be Fenway trying to get Rodgers to resign without actually firing him?
That said, I don't think they would have too many scruples about just firing him if they wanted to.
I haven't got the figures at hand but compare him to Coutinho (who both joined at roughly the same time), it's a big difference.
Henry needs to go back to the old structure he wanted because it's proven to work around Europe. If Rodgers did leave and was very fortunate enough to get a job a good European club, then he'll have to accept a DoF because it's the norm.
If a DoF came in, then the power would shift from Rodgers to the DoF and the committee. As at most clubs around Europe, the 'manager' is merely the First Team Coach who is solely responsible for coaching and tactics, AND using the players signed for him .
But this is ultimately the problem - Rodgers wants his own targets. And unless he complies with a potential new change, then I don't see a future for him.
Coutinho has played more games than Sturridge. Merely highlighting that Sturridge has missed a lot of games through injury.
Coutinho has played more games than Sturridge. Merely highlighting that Sturridge has missed a lot of games through injury.
OK...wrong thread? Or have I missed something here?
Again, though, why stick with Rodgers if it's clear that working together won't work? Why not just (!) bring in someone who can work with the committee? And you could achieve the same effect as the DoF by simply giving the committee (excluding Rodgers) final say on transfers, so that Rodgers can provide input but not make decisions (or leave him out the committee altogether).
He was and is full of confidence in his own ability, thinks he can single handedly build something that's been missing for more than a quarter of a century in a couple or three seasons, can't see it happening personally and if Tony's correct about him more than likely getting another season i hope he listens to good advice given by people in the know and that he learns to keep his gob shut and pack in using all the superlatives and bs every time he opens it
Agree - this is why we should never have deviated from the original structure, which leads me to believe that we simply had no other options other than Rodgers.
But I suppose out of courtesy, give Rodgers a final chance to work within the desired structure. If he says yes, then fine. If not, see you later.
In similar structures across all big clubs, the managers only input is which positions they need to sign e.g. striker. They won't have much say in the type of striker e.g target man, versatile forward etc , because the type of striker should fit the profile of the ethos/philosophy set by the DoF.
Typically, the DoF will be integral in identifying managers. So if Rodgers is to go, then I would imagine a DoF would come in first.
For him to succeed at Liverpool, he needs a DoF who can handle the recruitment. He needs to stick to coaching and tactics etc but then he needs quality coaches around him. Pascoe and Marsh don't fill me with confidence.