What is all the fuss about?
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You do know that bonnet hates liverpool right?
Lets be honest, gerrard was a big game player. The fcker was a match winner and a thorn in our side more than once. The one game that gets missed...which pisses me off more than the CL final, was that motherfcking olympiakos game.
You do know that bonnet hates liverpool right?
Lets be honest, gerrard was a big game player. The fcker was a match winner and a thorn in our side more than once. The one game that gets missed...which pisses me off more than the CL final, was that motherfcking olympiakos game.
Yeah, just when we were gone up he pops again. I'm sure the comment sare just to get a reaction but I was starting to wonder if some were serious on that point.
I think he's referring more to big league games than the cup games. The kind that were maybe bigger than you realise at the time, but end up being vital.
Like the ones against Palace and Chelsea last year, when all you needed was a level head and a bit of common sense leadership to get over the line, but Gerrard was all talk no real leadership. Or back in 2009 when you needed to beat some of the smaller teams to try and keep the pressure up on us, and Gerrard was caught a few times on camera staring at Benitez as if to say "what do we do now?!"
Also hasn't he played in twelve finals and scored in four of them? A decent record, but hardly on a par with the likes of Drogba and Ronaldo.
Yeah that's a point that is made with a bit of sense and can be argued but the sweeping statement was my point. There's always a comparison or an argument to be had in footy but to dissmiss him as not a big game player is a bit daft.
The Chelsea game is a good point and it was a lack of concentration no doubt, the Palace game after that was just us chasing goal difference and rightly so imo.
I think the sweeping statement was probably, as Treble said, just to wind you up a bit.
Tho' it's also worth noting that a lot of his big game contributions were required to bail you out after you'd already gotten yourselves into a hole, often a result of lack of leadership early in the game.
You sleepwalked into a 3-0 deficit by half time against Milan and it was only after Hamman came on and Gerrard had less leading to do that he was able to do his Hollywood thang (and dive for a penalty
). And the West Ham goal, a good and timely as it was, happened after you'd fallen behind to the might of Paul Konchesky.Tbh it always seemed to me like Gerrard was a player who needed a bit of a wake up call to perform in a big game, rather than just being a player who went out there and did it as a matter of course.
I think the sweeping statement was probably, as Treble said, just to wind you up a bit.
Tho' it's also worth noting that a lot of his big game contributions were required to bail you out after you'd already gotten yourselves into a hole, often a result of lack of leadership early in the game.
You sleepwalked into a 3-0 deficit by half time against Milan and it was only after Hamman came on and Gerrard had less leading to do that he was able to do his Hollywood thang (and dive for a penalty
Tbh it always seemed to me like Gerrard was a player who needed a bit of a wake up call to perform in a big game, rather than just being a player who went out there and did it as a matter of course.
I don't think so, you can't blame him for everything that goes wrong but praise him for digging us out of the ****, If Benitez had started with Hamman we wouldn't have been in the ****. The West Ham game was hilarious, look at the goals not one good one they were lucky to be in the position they were in.
I think the sweeping statement was probably, as Treble said, just to wind you up a bit.
Tho' it's also worth noting that a lot of his big game contributions were required to bail you out after you'd already gotten yourselves into a hole, often a result of lack of leadership early in the game.
You sleepwalked into a 3-0 deficit by half time against Milan and it was only after Hamman came on and Gerrard had less leading to do that he was able to do his Hollywood thang (and dive for a penalty
Tbh it always seemed to me like Gerrard was a player who needed a bit of a wake up call to perform in a big game, rather than just being a player who went out there and did it as a matter of course.
That's a good point, I hadnt looked at that. Even the 4-1 at OT was after we'd taken the lead. Only thing I would say in his defence is that he often didnt have the players around him to not get in the hole in the first place. In a better side he may well have contributed as much BUT not stood out as much either.
Hew as good in a few big games (about 6), but he was poor in many big games about (60)