You may not have saw your contract, but believe me it will have been there..Unless you just carried out fiddle work of course..
No, no fiddle work always properly employed but only remember getting a contract around mid eighties that you actually saw and signed before that you just worked.
Yes..I never had to sign a contract either as it was usually sorted out by Human Resources (or Personnel as it was usually called then)..
|Human resources, ****ing hell man I was farming ours would of been a freisian bull or a landrace sow.
Well we will have more zero hour contracts now and fewer employment rights for those with any sort of contract. So pissed off this morning!
The labour party brought in Zero Hour contracts. Is raw going to start critiscizing the red team for doing this or shall we blame it on the tories again
I can't find data to say when these first emerged, but it is an absolute fact that the number of people working on zero hours contracts went through the roof under the last Tory government and will undoubtedly continue to rise dramatically now..
I can agree that during the last government we have definitely seen a rise or at least a recognition of the exploitation of zero hours contracts. Whilst i think Zero hour contracts suit certain workers, it should be outlawed for big corporations with big profits who are using these to exploit workers. To do away with them all would be an easy solution but ideally i would like them to exist in a smaller form (maybe for companies turning over less than 500,000 or something). Also i take back that zero hours was introduced by labour - i thought i read it somewhere and i misinterpreted the data.
John Major introduced Zero hour contracts in 1996 I think you'll find fella. It's the way it was poorly set up by the that Tory government which has led to it's abuse today. It wasn't being abused during Labour's time as employers only started manipulating it after the financial crisis which came at the end of the Labour government. Since it's become a problem the Tory party has done nothing but use them to manipulate unemployment statistics. I could be on zero hour contracts with five companies and get no hours but the Tories use it statistically as five people in employment.
Thats clever wouldn't of thought of that cheating bastards. Don't quite undersatand how it works though as you would make 5 more people in work but the jobless total wouldn't go down as you would end up with - 10,000,000 unemployed instead of +2,000,000 unemployed? sort of.
I'd love to know what the real figure is. But they definitely count zero hour contracts as employment on the figures. Even if a person has no hours to work.
I think what roach is saying is that you've muddled your words. 1 person who is on 5 zero hours contracts will be counted as employed even if he gets 0 hours (what you have clarified). What you originally said was that 1 person on 5 zero hour contracts counts as 5 people employed (although i believe the system looks at how many people are unemployed rather than how many people are employed) and called that sort of counting uncanny
Zero hour contracts work really well for a lot of people. Labour had the right idea, that after 12 weeks I believe it was, every worker is entitled to a contract based on the average number of hours worked per week.
